Player Discussion Jake Virtanen | Jake It Or Break It Edition

[DL44]

2.25 is my guess

I would guess 2.25mil over 2 yrs would be closer to the contract cap hit he gets than 2.25 mil over one.

 

[iceburg]

Oh boy. Judging by the reaction from the Granlund signing, me thinks this thread is going to go crazy when Virtanen signs.

 

[DL44]

Oh boy. Judging by the reaction from the Granlund signing, me thinks this thread is going to go crazy when Virtanen signs.

IF he signs here.

He could be moving today.

 

[iceburg]

IF he signs here.

He could be moving today.

Possibly. I think he is one "chip" that they would be willing to move. Still think they would be selling low though.

 

[Josepho]

Oh boy. Judging by the reaction from the Granlund signing, me thinks this thread is going to go crazy when Virtanen signs.

the difference is that virtanen isn't a dog shit hockey player

 

[iceburg]

the difference is that virtanen isn't a dog **** hockey player

Yeah, agreed, but it really feels like an overpayment is in the works. I have heard nothing to that end but I can sense a quote something like: "we're pleased to have signed Jake for 3 years x $2.5M per. He is a big, fast, power forward who can rip the puck. We see him as a key member of our core moving forward."
While he might develop into that, I'm nervous that they will pay before he does.

 

[Melvin]

Oh boy. Judging by the reaction from the Granlund signing, me thinks this thread is going to go crazy when Virtanen signs.

Why? Virtanen is a good young player on an upward trajectory who will get a moderate increase at best. Granlund has been the same fringe player for 150 games and just got a significant raise for no particular reason.

 

[iceburg]

Why? Virtanen is a good young player on an upward trajectory who will get a moderate increase at best. Granlund has been the same fringe player for 150 games and just got a significant raise for no particular reason.

I am in the "Virtanen is a good young player on an upward trajectory" camp. I just think, since the team has a tendency to overpay, they will do so with Virtanen and, given the other group on these boards that still think he is a bust, this thread won't be a pleasant place.
But whatever, I guess I can always avoid the thread after the signing.

 

[iFan]

I’d likely be disappointed if we trade Virtanen as his value wouldn’t be very high and at worse he’s a really good 3rd liner that would be a handful in a playoff series. He should 100% have a future here, he’s a good player with some upside still. We need the speed he brings and the size/grit.

 

[tantalum]

Possibly. I think he is one "chip" that they would be willing to move. Still think they would be selling low though.

It is and precisely why I wouldn't be shocked if it happens. Benning is opposite man.

I will say that I'd much rather give $1.5 mil a year to Virtanen over Granlund.

 

[iceburg]

It is and precisely why I wouldn't be shocked if it happens. Benning is opposite man.

I will say that I'd much rather give $1.5 mil a year to Virtanen over Granlund.

Without a doubt. Granlund is what he is. Virtanen still has a significant amount of upside and could be an important player in the future.

 

[RobertKron]

Yeah, agreed, but it really feels like an overpayment is in the works. I have heard nothing to that end but I can sense a quote something like: "we're pleased to have signed Jake for 3 years x $2.5M per. He is a big, fast, power forward who can rip the puck. We see him as a key member of our core moving forward."
While he might develop into that, I'm nervous that they will pay before he does.

3x2.5 wouldn’t necessarily be all that crazy. 1x2.5, sure.

 

[DL44]

Virtanen would be dumb to sign anything more than a 1 year contract.

 

[iceburg]

3x2.5 wouldn’t necessarily be all that crazy. 1x2.5, sure.

2x$2M would be more in line.

 

[alternate]

I'd do 3@$2.5m no problem.

 

[RobertKron]

2x$2M would be more in line.

You'd be clearly paying hard for potential, but at least there's a rationale to it. We wouldn't be talking pizza territory or anything.

 

[RobertKron]

Virtanen would be dumb to sign anything more than a 1 year contract.

He's already been banged up a decent amount, though. I don't think it's necessarily dumb for any player who plays the way he'll need to if he's going to get the payday, and who is at the level he is a team right now to guarantee themselves multiple years of real NHL money.

 

[DL44]

He's already been banged up a decent amount, though. I don't think it's necessarily dumb for any player who plays the way he'll need to if he's going to get the payday, and who is at the level he is a team right now to guarantee themselves multiple years of real NHL money.

Ha.

That the mentality of older players or fringe NHLers.
Not a 21 yr old looking to break out.

He's coming off a 10g season with zero leverage... a multi yr deal would be a "fire my agent" type move.

 

[RobertKron]

Ha.

That the mentality of older players or fringe NHLers.
Not a 21 yr old looking to break out.

He's coming off a 10g season with zero leverage... a multi yr deal would be a "fire my agent" type move.

3x2.5 would have you firing his agent? I'd fire you as his agent firing advisor.

 

[Shareefruck]

Virtanen has more value to us that he does in a trade a this point, IMO.