Islanders Point Blank: Isles will speak to Tavares next summer about extension

[ScaredStreit]

Hand him a blank check, let him decide how many years he wants, and get on your knees and pray. That's what Snow needs to do.

 

[SLAPSHOT723]

I just hope this deal gets done sometime in July of next year. I can't imagine the Islanders giving any meaningful pushback on the AAV and I can't imagine JT trying to milk it for every last penny. JT will decide how much he wants and as long as its in line with other elite players, the Islanders will pay it. If he wants $11m/yr, you have to pay it. More likely he takes something slightly less than the highest salary in the league. Since the new CBA, I'm not sure we have had a $10m AAV deal. That $9.1m figure could definitely be the landing spot. Crosby got $8.4m AAV in his deal (albeit 4 years ago).

Of course, JT could decide that he doesn't want to sign an extension that early and then we have a problem.

Kopitar makes $10M/year.
Kane and Toews each make $10.5M/year.

Those are the only ones, but I believe Tavares has the same agent as Kopitar.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Kopitar makes $10M/year.
Kane and Toews each make $10.5M/year.

Those are the only ones, but I believe Tavares has the same agent as Kopitar.

Pretty sure he's got the same agent as Crosby (Pat Brisson). Not sure if Brisson is also Kopitar's agent.

I just hope this deal gets done sometime in July of next year. I can't imagine the Islanders giving any meaningful pushback on the AAV and I can't imagine JT trying to milk it for every last penny. JT will decide how much he wants and as long as its in line with other elite players, the Islanders will pay it. If he wants $11m/yr, you have to pay it. More likely he takes something slightly less than the highest salary in the league. Since the new CBA, I'm not sure we have had a $10m AAV deal. That $9.1m figure could definitely be the landing spot. Crosby got $8.4m AAV in his deal (albeit 4 years ago).

Of course, JT could decide that he doesn't want to sign an extension that early and then we have a problem.

$8.7 million. His obsession with that number knows no bounds.

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I'm not sure why there's even any concern about Tavares not re-signing. Unless there's some massive blowup between Tavares and Snow/the owners from now until his contract expires, I just didn't see him leaving as even a possibility.

Star players want to make a mark on their franchise. I just never really bought the idea Snow had to bring in more talent or Tavares would walk. It just goes against what these guys are.

 

[blitzkriegs]

Pretty sure he's got the same agent as Crosby (Pat Brisson). Not sure if Brisson is also Kopitar's agent.



$8.7 million. His obsession with that number knows no bounds.

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I'm not sure why there's even any concern about Tavares not re-signing. Unless there's some massive blowup between Tavares and Snow/the owners from now until his contract expires, I just didn't see him leaving as even a possibility.

Star players want to make a mark on their franchise. I just never really bought the idea Snow had to bring in more talent or Tavares would walk. It just goes against what these guys are.

Thank you very much. It's some bizarre insecurity of Isles fans. If a franchise was treading water or just a disaster (CBJ comes to mind, but they don't have a franchise player), then it could be a possibility, but the team is playoff contending 3/4 years, B2B 100 point seasons, payroll/cap is top 10/15 and a LONG way from submarining the cap floor. Fans are just in fear that the franchise is moving on from all this friends (Streit, Moulson, KO, and FN) that he will no longer be able to cope...

 

[seabass45]

Benn gets 9.5 mil per year. Don't use Stamkos as the benchmark.

 

[Skip To My Lou]

Benn gets 9.5 mil per year. Don't use Stamkos as the benchmark.

I think that's a very fair deal. Gonna go on a limb and say Tavares either gets that or $9M. Don't think he gets to $10M.

 

[boredmale]

I think that's a very fair deal. Gonna go on a limb and say Tavares either gets that or $9M. Don't think he gets to $10M.

Given that

1) we been underpaying Tavares for the past few years

2) Taxes in Texas are much better then in NY

3) Kopitar makes 10M

I am guessing Tavares gets 10M

 

[PWJunior]

Given that

1) we been underpaying Tavares for the past few years

2) Taxes in Texas are much better then in NY

3) Kopitar makes 10M

I am guessing Tavares gets 10M

It would be nice if he did a Crosby and went for $9.1M to honor his number.

 

[BMOK33]

I think that's a very fair deal. Gonna go on a limb and say Tavares either gets that or $9M. Don't think he gets to $10M.

I think Tavares is gonna go off this year. You could see last year in the 2nd half how good he was becoming. I'm relatively sure he was much sicker than we were led to believe in October and it affected him into December, may have had mono or something and it really affected him for a long time. I wouldn't be totally surprised to see a 40-55-95 season

 

[Flair19Woo]

I think Tavares is gonna go off this year. You could see last year in the 2nd half how good he was becoming. I'm relatively sure he was much sicker than we were led to believe in October and it affected him into December, may have had mono or something and it really affected him for a long time. I wouldn't be totally surprised to see a 40-55-95 season

95pts? Not if they play the same style they did this year. They'd need to open it up like 2 years ago. That's banking a lot on PAP and Ladd and a strong PP.

 

[blinkman360]

95pts? Not if they play the same style they did this year. They'd need to open it up like 2 years ago. That's banking a lot on PAP and Ladd and a strong PP.

I don't see PAP sticking there. Wouldn't be surprised to see JHS get an early look if he gets off to a hot start in Bridge while PA struggles.

 

[A Pointed Stick]

Given that

1) we been underpaying Tavares for the past few years

2) Taxes in Texas are much better then in NY

3) Kopitar makes 10M

I am guessing Tavares gets 10M

After CA taxes he nets $5000 a month.

 

[BelovedIsles]

I think Tavares is gonna go off this year. You could see last year in the 2nd half how good he was becoming. I'm relatively sure he was much sicker than we were led to believe in October and it affected him into December, may have had mono or something and it really affected him for a long time. I wouldn't be totally surprised to see a 40-55-95 season

Absolutely makes complete sense now that he has two bona fide first line wingers.

 

[stranger34]

Absolutely makes complete sense now that he has two bona fide first line wingers.

Agree, I think this 1st line is going to be the best we've seen in the Tavares era or at least will give the Vanek-JT-KO line a run for it's money.

 

[BMOK33]

95pts? Not if they play the same style they did this year. They'd need to open it up like 2 years ago. That's banking a lot on PAP and Ladd and a strong PP.

I'm not sure the style of play was the reason their scoring was down last year. As I said in the initial post I think Tavares was sick for awhile early on, numerous guys had a sophomore slump, and the league was very up and ready for the Isles last year. That whole surprise factor has worn off and I think they can become more offensive this year.

 

[periferal]

It would be nice if he did a Crosby and went for $9.1M to honor his number.

Bingo. Love that. JT is as quiet/professional a superstar as you will see. He wants to win BAD and I think that includes getting paid like a superstar, but not taking every last dollar so there's money left in the cap to surround him with the necessary talent to win.

 

[Isles72]

Bingo. Love that. JT is as quiet/professional a superstar as you will see. He wants to win BAD and I think that includes getting paid like a superstar, but not taking every last dollar so there's money left in the cap to surround him with the necessary talent to win.

I agree that he's not going to ask for over 10+ per but he's going to want to make up for a bit of the discount he took ; so your 9.1 per seems about right.

 

[LordNeverLose]

It would be nice if he did a Crosby and went for $9.1M to honor his number.

8 years $72.8 million has been my guess for a while now.

More than Stamkos (who he outperformed last season) and a little under Benn and Kopitar (who outperformed him last season).


For real though, anything under 10 would be a steal.

 

[blitzkriegs]

I agree that he's not going to ask for over 10+ per but he's going to want to make up for a bit of the discount he took ; so your 9.1 per seems about right.

This is more fan speak than in reality. He'll get paid based on the market for elite/franchise players.

He's on a 'discount' bc that's what he wanted and obviously the market skyrocketed during that time. The cap has had significant changes in how teams value ELC > 1st post ELC deals for high quality players. That was not the case when he signed his deal. JT probably doesn't give a hoot bc he'll definitely be getting a big bump coming up. It's not like a guy getting $3M and the market now says he's $4.5. JT already knows he's gonna be top 10 in the league.

 

[Richie Daggers Crime]

What would the Isles get if they traded him?

 

[GrandmaSlices51631]

What would the Isles get if they traded him?

A few lottery picks in the years following after AND lots of hate from the fanbase.

Value wise, I think their is a consensus a proven franchise center is the best and most coveted piece. I wouldn't entertain trading him though.

 

[periferal]

What would the Isles get if they traded him?

1. A ton of assets
2. A shiny brand new rebuild
3. A beatdown from fans, the media, and overall hockey community
4. All of the above

 

[IslandersFan17]

Literally would allow the kid to write up his own parameters.

 

[MikeyMike01]

A few lottery picks in the years following after AND lots of hate from the fanbase.

Value wise, I think their is a consensus a proven franchise center is the best and most coveted piece. I wouldn't entertain trading him though.

But on the flip side if we draft top 5 we could get another Ryan Strome, Griffin Reinhart, Nino Niederreiter, or Josh Bailey!

 

[ScaredStreit]

What would the Isles get if they traded him?

Not sure what the Isles could do short of moving out of the NYC area to make me stop being a fan...but if they traded Tavares honestly I think I'd stop caring about the team for a while.