Is there an NHL record equivalent to what Steph Curry did to the 3pt record?

[cutchemist42]

http://www.sbnation.com/2016/4/15/11437346/steph-curry-golden-state-warriors-3-point-record

This topic came up on a baseball message board and some good baseball equivalents could be made concerning Bonds or when Ruth set the old HR record. Basically, has any record in the NHL just been destroyed in terms of its previous value?

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[Greeneye]

Gretzky 215

 

[Semantics]

Gretzky 215

That's only 8% more than Lemieux's 199, quite a bit different than Curry's almost 50% margin.

I'd say 163 assists.

 

[cutchemist42]

Gretzky 215

What was the record before?

 

[Big McLargehuge]

Gretzky's 212 point season would actually be closer, since his 215 point season only broke the record by 3 points. Gretzky's 212 point season eclipsed the previous record of 164, set by a 19 year-old Gretzky the previous season. Damn.

 

[Oscar Acosta]

Gretzky's 215 point season. Prior to that if you discount his own point totals the highest had been Esposito at 152, a 63 point difference.

 

[orby]

When Gretzky scored 92 goals in 81-82, the previous record was 76 (Esposito in 70-71). 121% of the previous record. Still not close to what Curry did.

Gretzky's 215 point season. Prior to that if you discount his own point totals the highest had been Esposito at 152, a 63 point difference.

For total scoring, yeah, this is comparable. I picked a single offensive stat to correspond with the three-pointers but as a whole that season was above and beyond. BTW I think you meant 81-82, which was a 212 point season (he broke his own record when he scored 215).

 

[cutchemist42]

Gretzky's 212 point season would actually be closer, since his 215 point season only broke the record by 3 points. Gretzky's 212 point season eclipsed the previous record of 164, set by a 19 year-old Gretzky the previous season. Damn.

Okay thats what Im looking for!

Its also very much like Steph's because he's breaking his own too!

 

[Oscar Acosta]

That's only 8% more than Lemieux's 199, quite a bit different than Curry's almost 50% margin.

I'd say 163 assists.

But at the time he set the record, the next highest a player had ever had (not named Gretzky) was Esposito at 152.

 

[General Zodd]

That guy can pretty well shoot anywhere on the court, ...AT WILL AND SCORE. What an athlete.

But watch out Mr. Cury, we're coming for you.

See you in the league finals brah!!

 

[Oscar Acosta]

That guy can pretty well shoot anywhere on the court, ...AT WILL AND SCORE. What an athlete.:

Yeah he's amazing to watch, basket must seem the size of a sinkhole in his eyes.
I'd imagine in hockey terms it would be like someone who could snipe bar down from outside the blueline while at full acceleration.

 

[Aladyyn]

Orr for Dman scoring maybe?

 

[tarheelhockey]

Gretzky 215

Yeah, that's pretty much it.

Let's put it this way. If you had looked through the NHL record book in 1981, the single season points record would have looked like this:

1. Phil Esposito 152 (1971)
2. Phil Esposito 145 (1974)
3. Bobby Orr 139 (1971)
4. Marcel Dionne 137 (1980)
5. Wayne Gretzky 137 (1980)
6. Guy Lafleur 136 (1977)
7. Bobby Orr 135 (1975)
8. Bryan Trottier 134 (1979)
9. Phil Esposito 133 (1972)
10. Guy Lafleur 132 (1978)


So really, there was a clear cap on what was possible within a single hockey season. Superstars peaked around 130-140, and in ideal fluke conditions one guy broke 150.

So you put your record book down and follow the 1981 season where you get:

1. Wayne Gretzky 164
2. Marcel Dionne 135

And it's like... holy crap. This skinny kid just broke a hundred and SIXTY and won the scoring race by almost 30 points. That's nuts! That's crazy!

So kind of get yourself into that mindset, and then consider that only 12 months later you had:

1. Wayne Gretzky 212
2. Mike Bossy 147


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[Huggy]

Regular season scoring is such a joke when u construct a behemoth

 

[longchange]

Bobby Orr had a +/- of +124 in the 70-71 season. I think the previous record was +65 in 68-69 by Orr as well (maybe someone knows for sure). Granted they had only been keeping track of +/- for a few years but that's still the record today which is impressive considering the Oilers in the 80's.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Very different type of stat, but similar 'distance' from the 2nd place record:

Glenn Hall's 502 consecutive starts as a goalie.

 

[cutchemist42]

Yeah, that's pretty much it.

Let's put it this way. If you had looked through the NHL record book in 1981, the single season points record would have looked like this:

1. Phil Esposito 152 (1971)
2. Phil Esposito 145 (1974)
3. Bobby Orr 139 (1971)
4. Marcel Dionne 137 (1980)
5. Wayne Gretzky 137 (1980)
6. Guy Lafleur 136 (1977)
7. Bobby Orr 135 (1975)
8. Bryan Trottier 134 (1979)
9. Phil Esposito 133 (1972)
10. Guy Lafleur 132 (1978)


So really, there was a clear cap on what was possible within a single hockey season. Superstars peaked around 130-140, and in ideal fluke conditions one guy broke 150.

So you put your record book down and follow the 1981 season where you get:

1. Wayne Gretzky 164
2. Marcel Dionne 135

And it's like... holy crap. This skinny kid just broke a hundred and SIXTY and won the scoring race by almost 30 points. That's nuts! That's crazy!

So kind of get yourself into that mindset, and then consider that only 12 months later you had:

1. Wayne Gretzky 212
2. Mike Bossy 147


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Great perspective building.

The NHL equivalent is a little weird, as the 3pt line is a unique thing. It's a scoring stat within the overall scoring stat, but has a big importance to it.

I'd wonder then what the goals/assists breakdown looks like to what the norms of the previous record.

 

[Ol' Jase]

Consecutive 100 point seasons.

1. Gretzky - 13
2. Orr - 6

This one is mind boggling and not mentioned very much at all.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Umm 50 goals in 38 games?

 

[howlincoyote2k1]

While it doesn't have the same percentage value that the new record beat the old one by, Teemu Selanne's 76 goals as a rookie, beating Mike Bossy's 53, was the first that came to mind.

In my heart of hearts, that is the most unbreakable record in the NHL. Nobody, let alone a rookie, has even come close to 76 lately.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

i think it has to be 160 assists.

so when gretzky enters the league, the record is 102 by bobby orr. everyone else had 90 or less.

in his rookie season, gretzky puts up 86, good for 8th all time, behind only bryan trottier and guys named bobby.

in his second year, he breaks the record, with 109.

over the next five years, he raises the bar to 120, then 125, then 135.

...then 160.

since then, the only non-gretzky player to join orr in the 100 assist club is mario, who did it once, hitting 114 (tying gretzky for the league lead in what was staristically only gretzky's 8th best playmaking season).

 

[Gene Parmesan]

That guy can pretty well shoot anywhere on the court, ...AT WILL AND SCORE. What an athlete.

But watch out Mr. Cury, we're coming for you.

See you in the league finals brah!!

I think a lot of his appeal and why he's universally liked is that he does what he does with average physical talent. He's not Russell Westbrook that dominates with kryptonian athletic ability. Truly remarkable.

 

[Juxta Position]

i think it has to be 160 assists.

so when gretzky enters the league, the record is 102 by bobby orr. everyone else had 90 or less.

in his rookie season, gretzky puts up 86, good for 8th all time, behind only bryan trottier and guys named bobby.

in his second year, he breaks the record, with 109.

over the next five years, he raises the bar to 120, then 125, then 135.

...then 160.

since then, the only non-gretzky player to join orr in the 100 assist club is mario, who did it once, hitting 114 (tying gretzky for the league lead in what was staristically only gretzky's 8th best playmaking season).

this record does not get the recognition it deserves IMO. this is a bit off topic, simply becasue i'm not comparing it to curry's season in any way, but this record is really truly staggering to think of. he averaged 2 assists per game for an entire season . lots of gretzkys records will be very tough to break, but the single season assist record i can't see ever being broken.

 

[Cursed Lemon]

Gretzky's assists record is more points than anyone not named Mario has ever scored in a season.

Hell, it's more than all except for two of Mario's seasons.

 

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you would think Goals:

But that would be in accurate.
In the NHL you have to have the stones to drive to the net.
30 shots in game.
7 in front of net get you 52% of goals.
8 in the triangle from center circles to top of circles gets you 33% of goals.
15% of goals from perimeter shots.

Basketball rewards avoiding the in key contact.
Here is 3 points for shooting from the perimeter and avoiding the contact down low.

Allways hated that.

Any goal net based game you are more repetitively rewarded the closer you are.
Not basketball.

So the answer is No.

Now if shoot out Goals counted as 1.5 goals in a players stats.
Then we could look at that.