Is Artemi Panarin a Hall of Fame Winger?

[LudwigVonKarlsson]

Hart, Ross, Rocket, Smythe, Pearson. Those are the major awards. Those are the only awards that are consequential for forwards to win when it comes to HOF considerations.

Also think Selke is a big deal *IF* you win multiple and have really good/great offensive numbers too.

Datsyuk, Bergeron, Kopitar, and eventually Barkov are examples of guys that will make it in on Selkes + good numbers with no other major awards.

Calder has been won by guys like Barrett Jackman, Tyler Myers, Steve Mason, Andrew Raycroft in the last 20 years. Major awards don't get won by players of that ilk.

Don’t say the first major trophy.

How many major trophies do you think there are and which ones?

The Calder is the only trophy aside from the Masterton that only matters in the season that it is won. Panarin is a HHOF talent, but he does not have the cups and major trophies to get in comfortably as of right now.

 

[Ishdul]

If Panarin gets 1st team all star this year then he would have 2 first teams and 2 second teams. I think the only player not in the hall with comparable post season all star selections is carl brewer.

John Leclair and Rick Martin as well.

But he's obviously trending into clear HHOF trajectory and unless his career is cut short very soon he will be a completely uncontroversial inclusion.

 

[ManofSteel55]

He will have to continue his "prime" scoring pace for a number more years. Adding to his hardware collection would help his case as well. I don't think he's quite there.

 

[MuckOG]

No

 

[mm11]

Great player hof talent just may run out of years. Needs a cup to inch closer

 

[Machinehead]

It depends on how he ages.

If he plays 8 more years and puts up 100 points 3-4 more times, you're looking at around 1,400 points, and that's being conservative on the back half.

 

[ecemleafs]

4 more seasons of panarin gets him around 1000 nhl games. He likely has well over PPG. 4 postseason awards minimum. The top player on his team throughout his prime. Id say he is in rather easily even if he's not great for the rest of his career. There has been pretty much no best on best international completion throughout his career so you can't even factor international play in with him, nor would you be able to consider it for most of his contemporaries.

 

[blueandgoldguy]

If Panarin gets 1st team all star this year then he would have 2 first teams and 2 second teams. I think the only player not in the hall with comparable post season all star selections is carl brewer.

John Leclair as well who had 5 first and 2nd team all star selections.

 

[blueandgoldguy]

Since his rookie season in 2015-16, Panarin is 5th in the entire league for points scored.

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Hall of Fame voters typically look for periods of sustained dominance which Panarin has already provided over 9 seasons. From this point on, Panarin could have 50-70 point seasons over the next 5-6 years and he would be voted into the Hall...maybe not on the first ballot, but he probably wouldn't wait too long either.

 

[maddskkilz]

Surprised at the responses that are dismissive of his chances and at the same time I think it’s unlikely he has multiple 100 point seasons after age 32. Honestly even one more 100 point season and either a 1st or 2nd AST selection along with a few more decent seasons of 60+ points should be good enough to get him serious consideration.

I think AST selections are seriously undervalued with 32 teams now. There’s only 12 spots for players to achieve recognition and while the player pool has continued to expand.

Similarly the trophies argument doesn’t carry much water. There’s only a handful of trophies to win every year and it’s dismissive to only consider award winners for the HHOF. Paul Kariya won 2 Byngs, and other greats like Mats Sundin, Adam Oates, Mark Recchi never won any awards.

There’s something to be said for being one of the premier offensive threats for a span of 7 years.