Brent Burns Beard
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how come the rest of us monkeys are allowed to work in a system where our wages are allowed to inflate at the pace we set and the players arent ?
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DR said:how come the rest of us monkeys are allowed to work in a system where our wages are allowed to inflate at the pace we set and the players arent ?
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DR said:how come the rest of us monkeys are allowed to work in a system where our wages are allowed to inflate at the pace we set and the players arent ?
dr
fair enough, but i also am not drafted by my company.The Iconoclast said:And where is this fantasy workplace? You get minimum 10% raises no matter how bad your performance? You get opportunities to see your base salary double or triple? You get to challenge the company to go to arbitration to settle for a huge raise? I don't think so. The Calgary economy is reportedly booming, but not to the level where these things happen.
you dont ?CarlRacki said:You set your own raises? Please PM the place of your employment.
DR said:if you are in the top % of what you do, you can set your price.
DR said:you dont ?
if you are in the top % of what you do, you can set your price.
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DR said:fair enough, but i also am not drafted by my company.
however, if one of my staff feel that they are worth more than we pay them, they are free to walk into my office and demand a raise.
doesnt mean they will get it, but the fact remains they are not excluded from asking.
dr
CarlRacki said:This, of course, is not true. The best garbage collector in the planet cannot command a $1 million salary. The best CEO in the country cannot command a $1 billion salary.
Everything is tied to revenues. Except in hockey and baseball, that is.
mudcrutch79 said:As for the guy talking about how he wasn't drafted-the industry in which you work doesn't depend on having at least of semblance of competitive balance in order to sell product. The NHL does. The tradeoff that the players get in return for agreeing to this are pretty huge financial rewards. .
sorry, you are describing a budget, not a salary cap. all businesses run on budgets. the players never claimed otherwise.CarlRacki said:This, of course, is not true. The best garbage collector in the planet cannot command a $1 million salary. The best CEO in the country cannot command a $1 billion salary.
Everything is tied to revenues. Except in hockey and baseball, that is.
i am not arguing your points. however, whenever i hear a poster claim the players offer will only see their salaries rise again, i cant help but wonder "who cares".looooob said:Agree. No one is forcing Andrew Ladd to move to Raleigh. He can work at Starbucks in Calgary, go to University wherever he likes, or play hockey in Europe.
But if he wants to play in the NHL..there have to be tradeoffs
In exchange for huge financial payoffs (let's be honest regardless of CBA system), first class travel, generous per diems and the opportunity for a pension, the tradeoff for poor Mr Ladd is he should have to report to wherever he's drafted (for a handsome capped salary in the 800k-1.3 M range), then he's into a system with qualifying offers, arbitration eligibility, restricted and then unrestricted free agency at 31 (currently). At the end of the day he can 'retire' in his mid 30s and live wherever he wants
Yes there are some artificial restrictions on NHL players that don't exist in many professions, but as you say that's the price of needing to have a league with some sort of competitive balance. Its up to the player whether this is a good workplace for them or not I guess
DR said:i am not arguing your points. however, whenever i hear a poster claim the players offer will only see their salaries rise again, i cant help but wonder "who cares".
why shouldnt they have that same opportunity to have their salaries rise that the rest of us professionals have ?
yes, this is true. i dont believe the players ever offered a system of unfettered free agency though.mudcrutch79 said:If they had the same opportunity that everyone else had, it'd be bad for the success of the game at the NHL level. The NHL couldn't exist as a 30 team entity with unfettered free agency. Agreeing to these restraints helps preserve the golden goose. It's in their interests to do this.
DR said:i am not arguing your points. however, whenever i hear a poster claim the players offer will only see their salaries rise again, i cant help but wonder "who cares".
why shouldnt they have that same opportunity to have their salaries rise that the rest of us professionals have ?
dr
DR said:i am not arguing your points. however, whenever i hear a poster claim the players offer will only see their salaries rise again, i cant help but wonder "who cares".
why shouldnt they have that same opportunity to have their salaries rise that the rest of us professionals have ?
dr
DR said:the argument against the players proposal was that it would do nothing to curb inflation. i think that could be argued, however even if it allows for inflating salaries, i fail to see why we should be so against that just because "its inflationary".
you are hardly worth the energy it takes to type this response.Go Flames Go said:There salaries will rise with the payrolls ranges system. The NHL has been so generous in there offer that the range will clearly go up every year.
I never knew in Calgary you can demand and set your own salaries. Hell im going to McDonalds and telling them im coming to work, but I want $17.95 an hour and not the $5.95 you pay everyone with no room for growth.
DR said:you are hardly worth the energy it takes to type this response.
once you get into the work force you will find out that some people have no ability to earn more money (mcdonald workers) and for others the sky is the limit (sales, executives, business development)
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DR said:how come the rest of us monkeys are allowed to work in a system where our wages are allowed to inflate at the pace we set and the players arent ?
dr
DR said:how come the rest of us monkeys are allowed to work in a system where our wages are allowed to inflate at the pace we set and the players arent ?
dr
CarlRacki said:You set your own raises?
The Iconoclast said:And where is this fantasy workplace? You get minimum 10% raises no matter how bad your performance?
mudcrutch79 said:If they had the same opportunity that everyone else had, it'd be bad for the success of the game at the NHL level. The NHL couldn't exist as a 30 team entity with unfettered free agency. Agreeing to these restraints helps preserve the golden goose. It's in their interests to do this.