Rumor: In-season Proposals, Rumors, Free Agents & Roster Moves (related topics) XLV

[Lonewolfe2015]

Keeping Stastny should be seen as a requirement by all Avs fans. You finally have your proof that under a good coach he's still a 60-70 point center that we can use to ensure MacKinnon doesn't get put over his head whenever injuries hit.

He's also the most tenured Av we have, should be a franchiser imho.

 

[JLo217]

Yeah, but he's past that stretch now, and we wouldn't be losing staz for him, we'd be swapping staz for pleks to bring in markov after staz had already intimated to patty and joe that he wanted to move on.

Staz said he wants to move on? Or under assumption if the trade were to go down?

I really don't see him wanting to go. Up and coming team coming out of the rebuild, in his prime, and finally getting good line mates. Unless we want him to go? I just don't see why he wouldn't want to sign with the team. I think the depth is a strength and I don't think he's to worried about points. We know what he's capable of and can pay him well to stay on board.

Can't blame him if he wants to cash in either. Look what Clarkson is making, and what he's done

 

[cgf]

Staz said he wants to move on? Or under assumption if the trade were to go down?

I really don't see him wanting to go. Up and coming team coming out of the rebuild, in his prime, and finally getting good line mates. Unless we want him to go? I just don't see why he wouldn't want to sign with the team. I think the depth is a strength and I don't think he's to worried about points. We know what he's capable of and can pay him well to stay on board.

Can't blame him if he wants to cash in either. Look what Clarkson is making, and what he's done

It was a hypothetical where he's privately let Patty know he's ready for a change.

 

[Greene Giant]

yes he wants to go to buffalo to play for is good friend Sacco

 

[cgf]

No but going to Toronto to make crazy money while feeding Kessel for goal after goal as the #1 C on a playoff team could be appealing, or teaming up with Stewie again in his native St Louis, or after this hypothetical trade Montreal, could also be tempting. The avs have a very good pitch for him, but we're not the only taem that has reasons to think he'll sign on long term with us and he may decide that he wants to explore one of those other options.

 

[JoemAvs]

No but going to Toronto to make crazy money while feeding Kessel for goal after goal as the #1 C on a playoff team could be appealing, or teaming up with Stewie again in his native St Louis, or after this hypothetical trade Montreal, could also be tempting. The avs have a very good pitch for him, but we're not the only taem that has reasons to think he'll sign on long term with us and he may decide that he wants to explore one of those other options.

How on earth would Toronto be able to afford breaking the bank for Stastny?

The only really scary team is St. Louis. Stastny obviously has ties to STL, Stewie is there (with whom Stastny had obvious chemistry) and they are clearly a better team than the Avs.

I think it is between COL, STL and a random team that decides to completely break the bank for Stastny (WPG? NJD?)...

I just hope that our management is smart enough to get him under contract before the deadline or move him if it is clear that he wants to test UFA...

 

[cgf]

Rising cap + buyouts + cap-magic. I've learned to never doubt toronto's ability to open up tons of money to throw at FAs.

STL is the clear big threat, but I think Toronto should not be underestimated either. So I can see staz wanting a change, although I hope it doesn't happen and can see him wanting to stay as well.

 

[tigervixxxen]

There are plenty of reasons why Stastny *could* want to leave. Money, 1C role, go to a contender. Just depends what he wants, he has reasons to stay too. My theory is is the Avs are in the ballpark market price for him he stays. Would be nice to have it sorted out by the deadline but if the Avs have a realistic shot at the playoffs by then I can't see them moving him. With the way the cap is expected to go up and how teams abuse LTIR to create extra cap room there really are not as many financial restrictions as it seems out there.

 

[cgf]

I hope that's what happens.

 

[CB Joe]

How on earth would Toronto be able to afford breaking the bank for Stastny?

The only really scary team is St. Louis. Stastny obviously has ties to STL, Stewie is there (with whom Stastny had obvious chemistry) and they are clearly a better team than the Avs.

I think it is between COL, STL and a random team that decides to completely break the bank for Stastny (WPG? NJD?)...

I just hope that our management is smart enough to get him under contract before the deadline or move him if it is clear that he wants to test UFA...

St. louis is a budget team. I don't know if they could afford Stastny without making moves.

 

[InjuredChoker]

St. louis is a budget team. I don't know if they could afford Stastny without making moves.

what makes them budget team? to me their recent moves indicate that they are willing to spend if that's what it takes to win.

 

[Qurpiz]

Not quite sure why I'm posting this but

Avs are knee deep in centers, however, somewhat lacking quality wingers which PIT needs. There's also some nice goalie prospects.

Avs fans in this board are going to want my head for this, but an unsigned RoR for Määttä +. After the **** RoR pulled last season I'd do that trade in a heartbeat.

My post in this thread. I fear no reprisal.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Not quite sure why I'm posting this but



My post in this thread. I fear no reprisal.

Hopefully, nobody in the organization shares your opinion. Also, Ryan O'Reilly is a winger for the Colorado Avalanche.

 

[Lonewolfe2015]

My post in this thread. I fear no reprisal.

No way. ROR for a 1st pairing defender, maybe. But moving him to Pittsburgh is silly.

Unless we could get Sutter + Maatta + 1st + for him, I don't think we'd be getting our value.

 

[Wintersun]

No way. ROR for a 1st pairing defender, maybe. But moving him to Pittsburgh is silly.

Unless we could get Sutter + Maatta + 1st + for him, I don't think we'd be getting our value.

Maatta and Neal

 

[Qurpiz]

I'm saying it again, an unsigned Radar should be moved for a young hot-damn D prospect, I can't think of a better hot-damn D prospect than Määttä, or a proven relatively young top 2 D.

I did kind of sour on RoR after the stunt he pulled last season, and yes, a part of me wants the Avs to go full predatory on him just because of that, however I can't argue that he has all the makings of another Bergeron if not more.

Also, Ryan O'Reilly is a winger for the Colorado Avalanche.

At the moment, yes, but let's not kid ourselves, he's going to be traded as a center to most of the teams in the league

 

[Wintersun]

I'm saying it again, an unsigned Radar should be moved for a young hot-damn D prospect, I can't think of a better hot-damn D prospect than Määttä, or a proven relatively young top 2 D.

I did kind of sour on RoR after the stunt he pulled last season, and yes, a part of me wants the Avs to go full predatory on him just because of that, however I can't argue that he has all the makings of another Bergeron if not more.

I'm not sure Maatta will become a first pairing guy. If we're really going to trade RoR for a young D prospect, let's target guys like Hampus Lindholm instead.

Seriously, I don't think Maatta is an elite prospect.

 

[Qurpiz]

Seriously, I don't think Maatta is an elite prospect.

I've been following on Määttä for the last 4 years, ever since he was playing in D-Team in Finnish 2nd league as 16 year old, he's been skyrocketing that whole time, and I'm not quite sure when will it end. That kid will be a rock-solid 2nd pairing guy in the least.

 

[InjuredChoker]

better hot d-man prospect than maatta?

murray and rielly and that's just from the east. määttä looks poised and good out there, didn't think he would make nhl yet but i'd take those two easily over him.

and then there are many arguables and that's just from the east as i assume if radar is shipped, it's out to the east.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

I did kind of sour on RoR after the stunt he pulled last season, and yes, a part of me wants the Avs to go full predatory on him just because of that,

Ah, the true reason for the ridiculous proposal. You hold silly grudges. Thanks for clearing that up for us, we can disregard your actual proposal now.

 

[Qurpiz]

Ah, the true reason for the ridiculous proposal. You hold silly grudges. Thanks for clearing that up for us, we can disregard your actual proposal now.

Yeah, **** me for that, right?

But does anyone think the Avs should just wait until summer to maybe get RoR signed?

I like Radar, I really do, but I don't see anything good coming out of having him unsigned, untraded after the deadline.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Actually, fans like you are the reason why players shouldn't care what so ever what the fans think. In one post, you say you want the Avs to "go full predatory" on him and teach him a lesson or some nonsense, yet in another post you say this:

If RoR signs a long extension tomorrow no way in hell he's traded out of Denver. I will fly in there personally and cling on to his leg, trust me I weigh enough to hold him down.

It's silly, over-the-top, fangirl type garbage.

Every player on the team and every member of the new management embraces O'Reilly. He's the one still here after last year's issues, not the guys who were on the other side of the table causing them. Looks like the Kroenkes chose a side. Of course, it's best to take the opinion of an emotional fan with zero understanding of anything that has transpired. That's always the right approach.

 

[JoemAvs]

Yeah, **** me for that, right?

But does anyone think the Avs should just wait until summer to maybe get RoR signed?

I like Radar, I really do, but I don't see anything good coming out of having him unsigned, untraded after the deadline.

Well nobody wants to be in that crappy situation again.
But... This trade sucks donkey balls.
If we move ROR (and I don't want to at all), we should get way better value in return.
Määttä is not even in the same stratosphere valuewise.

 

[Qurpiz]

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Okay TPS, you're actuelly a poster who I really enjoy and respect around here, I'd like to hear your opinion on 2 things

1. What you think will happen with Radar
2. What you think the Avs should do come trade deadline if he's still unsigned

Me, I think and I hope he's re-signed well before, not going into terms and cap hits, but at the same time, if he's not I think he should be traded. Just think it's a whole lot of can of worms if that situation goes into off-season. The "full predatory" comment, yeah that was a hyperbole from my part.

I really didn't want this to go into name-calling, or worse, and I see no reason why it should go to that.

And there are bigger crimes than openly fan-boying a prospect in HFBoards, which I'm doing on Määttä.

 

[cgf]

Yeah, **** me for that, right?

But does anyone think the Avs should just wait until summer to maybe get RoR signed?

I like Radar, I really do, but I don't see anything good coming out of having him unsigned, untraded after the deadline.

Yes they should. If he's still unsigned at the deadline that's fine. He's not a UFA the avs have plenty of time to work out a long term deal with him. If we do have to trade him it'll be down the line, not at this deadline.