If you were GM picking class of '03 now

[gars59]

kostitsyn is so underrated , justye because he don't produce at 19 years old in ahl , and play in third line dont't speak english ....

 

[Jacob]

kostitsyn is so underrated , justye because he don't produce at 19 years old in ahl ,..

I think it's more because he hasn't produced anywhere of note.

D1 U18 tournaments? Russian midget leagues? Kostitsyn hasn't put up against legit competition to date.

 

[flambers]

I would take either of them over Phaneuf in a flash. He is a stud defender, but Staal and Zherdev are amazing

I disagree, I would take Phaneuf way ahead of Staal. Its not even close. Zherdev is an unknown he could be great or he could be a floater.

(1) Phaneuf
(2) Zherdev
(3) Staal

 

[hockeyfan125]

If Bergeron were a first round pick everyone would have him listed at #1, but seeing he wasnt hyped he will never get the respect around here. Staal does not have a chance of being the player Bergeron will.

wow....right now Bergeron is better, but Staal has the upside to be twice the player Bergeron is.

Staal is the most under-rated bluechipper in the NHL, period.

 

[kasper11]

kostitsyn is so underrated , justye because he don't produce at 19 years old in ahl , and play in third line dont't speak english ....

Compare him to Vanek, Staal, Bergeron, Brown, all drafted in the same class, yet all put up big numbers in the AHL.

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

My top 30 for 03

1. Nikolai Zherdev
2. Dion Phaneuf
3. Eric Staal
4. Jeff Carter
5. Milan Michalek
6. Patrice Bergeron
7. Nathan Horton
8. Thomas Vanek
9. Dustin Brown
10. Zach Parise
11. Mike Richards
12. Ryan Suter
13. Marc-Andre Fleury
14. Shea Weber
15. Brent Seabrooke
16. Mark Stuart
17. Braydon Coburn
18. Steve Bernier
19. Corey Perry
20. Ryan Kesler
21. Ryan Getzlaf
22. Dan Fritsche
23. Anthony Stewart
24. Eric Fehr
25. Marc-Antoine Poliout
26. Andrei Kostitsyn
27. Brent Burns
28. Patrick Eaves
29. Hugh Jessiman
30. Patrick O’Sullivan

Ryan Getzlaf falls? What kind of crack are you on, buddy?

Staal does not have a chance of being the player Bergeron will.

 

[flambers]

The other player that is way to low is Anthony Stewart. This guy will be a very good power forward.

 

[Le Golie]

If Bergeron were a first round pick everyone would have him listed at #1, but seeing he wasnt hyped he will never get the respect around here. Staal does not have a chance of being the player Bergeron will.

That has got to be the funniest post in the history of the Internet.

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

My top 30 for 03:


1.Eric Staal(+1)
2.Nikolai Zherdev(+2)
3.Marc-Andre Fleury(-2)
4.Nathan Horton(-1)
5.Ryan Suter(+1)
6.Dion Phaneuf(+2)
7.Tomas Vanek(-2)
8.Jeff Carter(+3)
9.Zach Parise(+8)
10.Ryan Getzlaf(+9)
11.Milan Michalek(-5)
12.Andrei Kostitsyn(-2)
13.Dustin Brown(E)
14.Patrice Bergeron(+31)
15.Corey Perry(+13)
16.Mike Richards(+8)
17.Braydon Coburn(-10)
18.Anthony Stewart(+7)
19.Dan Fritsche(+27)
20.Patrick O'Sullivan(+36)
21.Eric Fehr(-3)
22.Brent Burns(-2)
23.Ryan Kesler(E)
24.Marc-Antoine Pouliot(-2)
25.Brent Seabrook(-11)
26.Jeff Tambellini(+1)
27.Robert Nilsson(-12)
28.Mark Stuart(-7)
29.Shawn Belle(+1)
30.Kevin Klein(+7)


Flame Away.

 

[ZombieMatt]

My top 30 for 03:


1.Eric Staal(+1)
2.Nikolai Zherdev(+2)
3.Marc-Andre Fleury(-2)
4.Nathan Horton(-1)
5.Ryan Suter(+1)
6.Dion Phaneuf(+2)
7.Tomas Vanek(-2)
8.Jeff Carter(+3)
9.Zach Parise(+8)
10.Ryan Getzlaf(+9)
11.Milan Michalek(-5)
12.Andrei Kostitsyn(-2)
13.Dustin Brown(E)
14.Patrice Bergeron(+31)
15.Corey Perry(+13)
16.Mike Richards(+8)
17.Braydon Coburn(-10)
18.Anthony Stewart(+7)
19.Dan Fritsche(+27)
20.Patrick O'Sullivan(+36)
21.Eric Fehr(-3)
22.Brent Burns(-2)
23.Ryan Kesler(E)
24.Marc-Antoine Pouliot(-2)
25.Brent Seabrook(-11)
26.Jeff Tambellini(+1)
27.Robert Nilsson(-12)
28.Mark Stuart(-7)
29.Shawn Belle(+1)
30.Kevin Klein(+7)


Flame Away.

You wouldn't even have Steve Bernier in the first round?

....

I'm curious, please explain.

 

[PredFred]

My top 30 for 03:


1.Eric Staal(+1)
2.Nikolai Zherdev(+2)
3.Marc-Andre Fleury(-2)
4.Nathan Horton(-1)
5.Ryan Suter(+1)
6.Dion Phaneuf(+2)
7.Tomas Vanek(-2)
8.Jeff Carter(+3)
9.Zach Parise(+8)
10.Ryan Getzlaf(+9)
11.Milan Michalek(-5)
12.Andrei Kostitsyn(-2)
13.Dustin Brown(E)
14.Patrice Bergeron(+31)
15.Corey Perry(+13)
16.Mike Richards(+8)
17.Braydon Coburn(-10)
18.Anthony Stewart(+7)
19.Dan Fritsche(+27)
20.Patrick O'Sullivan(+36)
21.Eric Fehr(-3)
22.Brent Burns(-2)
23.Ryan Kesler(E)
24.Marc-Antoine Pouliot(-2)
25.Brent Seabrook(-11)
26.Jeff Tambellini(+1)
27.Robert Nilsson(-12)
28.Mark Stuart(-7)
29.Shawn Belle(+1)
30.Kevin Klein(+7)


Flame Away.

You include Kevin Klein but NOT Shea Weber? How's that? Never the less, Preds did have one Heck of a D-Man draft that year!!!

 

[hockeyfan125]

My first round:

1. Eric Staal
2. Nikolai Zherdev
3. Dion Phaneuf
4. Marc-Andre Fleury
5. Jeff Carter
6. Ryan Suter
7. Nathan Horton
8. Thomas Vanek
9. Milan Michalek
10. Patrice Bergeron
11. Zach Parise
12. Shea Weber
13. Dustin Brown
14. Ryan Getzlaf
15. Ryan Kesler
16. Steve Bernier
17. Mike Richards
18. Braydon Coburn
19. Eric Fehr
20. Mark Stuart
21. Andrei Kostitsyn
22. Jeff Tambellini
23. Hugh Jessiman
24. Marc-Antoine Pouliot
25. Brent Seabrooke
26. Mike Egener
27. Corey Crawford
28. Matt Carle
29. Corey Perry
30. Jim Howard

very hard to do.

 

[Patty Ice]

If Bergeron were a first round pick everyone would have him listed at #1, but seeing he wasnt hyped he will never get the respect around here. Staal does not have a chance of being the player Bergeron will.

And if he wasn't on the Bruins, you wouldn't be riding his nuts this hard.

 

[McDonald19]

i

Just for fun....

1. Staal
2. Zherdev
3. Fleury
4. Phaneuf
5. Suter
6. Vanek
7. Bergeron
8. Horton
9. Brown
10. Carter
11. Parise
12. Richards
13. Kesler
14. Michalek
15. Getzlaf
16. Coburn

wow...Kesler ahead of Michalek, Getzlaf, etc....

 

[McDonald19]

My top 30 for 03

1. Nikolai Zherdev
2. Dion Phaneuf
3. Eric Staal
4. Jeff Carter
5. Milan Michalek
6. Patrice Bergeron
7. Nathan Horton
8. Thomas Vanek
9. Dustin Brown
10. Zach Parise
11. Mike Richards
12. Ryan Suter
13. Marc-Andre Fleury
14. Shea Weber
15. Brent Seabrooke
16. Mark Stuart
17. Braydon Coburn
18. Steve Bernier
19. Corey Perry
20. Ryan Kesler
21. Ryan Getzlaf
22. Dan Fritsche
23. Anthony Stewart
24. Eric Fehr
25. Marc-Antoine Poliout
26. Andrei Kostitsyn
27. Brent Burns
28. Patrick Eaves
29. Hugh Jessiman
30. Patrick O’Sullivan

Bernier ahead of Getzlaf...

 

[Epsilon]

If Bergeron were a first round pick everyone would have him listed at #1, but seeing he wasnt hyped he will never get the respect around here. Staal does not have a chance of being the player Bergeron will.

Why would "everyone have him listed at #1" when Zherdev produced only 5 points less in 15 less games during his rookie year, and is widely regarded as having a much higher upside? More overrating from the WJCs.

 

[Tb0ne]

I'd rate Kesler higher than that, but not by much.

 

[dunwoody_joe]

I'll add my 2 cents as well:

Coburn has developed just as planned and by this time next year will be in the top 5 of this list.

 

[Macman]

This is about potential IMO, not about who's doing better now or who played in the NHL the earliest, so I'd take Carter No. 1. I think he's going to be an absolute star.

 

[Kaizer]

Well, my ranks based on their success from last 2 seasons and future expectations.

1. Zherdev
2. Staal
3. Bergeron
4. Suter
5. Phaneuf
6. Carter
7. Brown
8. Parise
9. Richards
10. Coburn

 

[DKH]

I can't honestly comment because I haven't seen most of these guys but if you asked Sydney Crosby, he'll take about a tenth of a second to say Patrice Bergeron.

I am a huge Staal fan both as a person and player and saw him many times this past season and he looks like he is going to be very good but Bergeron although a different type of player would be my choice. And thats no disrespect to Staal who I am rooting for to have a great career.

Chuck Kobasew (I know not in the class but he was on Staal's line and I'm tossing this in because I want to ) was tremendous and I can see him becoming a 350 goal over the next 10 year guy. He really looked like he has 'it'.

 

[gars59]

Compare him to Vanek, Staal, Bergeron, Brown, all drafted in the same class, yet all put up big numbers in the AHL.

oh this player play on first line , speak english , and play n-a hockey style

 

[gars59]

My top 30 for 03:


1.Eric Staal
2.Nikolai Zherdev
3.Dion Phaneuf
4.Nathan Horton
5.Ryan Suter
6.Tomas Vanek
7.Marc-Andre Fleury
8.Jeff Carter
9.Zach Parise
10.Ryan Getzlaf
11.Milan Michalek
12.Andrei Kostitsyn
13.Dustin Brown
14.Patrice Bergeron
15.Braydon Coburn
16.Mike Richards
17.Corey Perry
18. Dan Fritsche
19.Ryan Kesler
20.Patrick O'Sullivan
21.Eric Fehr
22.Brent Burns
23.Brent Seabrook
24.steve bernier
25.Robert Nilsson
26.Anthony Stewart
27.Jeff Tambellini
28.Mark Stuart
29.shea weber
30.m-a pouliot

 

[wedge]

oh this player play on first line , speak english , and play n-a hockey style

the guy didn't deserve to be on the first line, compared to Vanek, Staal and co.

I would never put Kostitsyn at #26, but #15-18 is good...

 

[DKH]

If Bergeron were a first round pick everyone would have him listed at #1, but seeing he wasnt hyped he will never get the respect around here. Staal does not have a chance of being the player Bergeron will.

I'd take Staal anyday but agree Bergeron would be picked probably by more GMs and scouts who watch the game for a living. I am 10 minutes from work to Lowell and had mini season tix plan and took the kids to some of the Lockmonster stuff and met the kid. His parents should be proud- and I am rooting for him like any nonBruins player. Bergeron though has a unique game that doesn't show up on Hockey Guide Records and Stat Book.

Bottom line, I like them both, wish the Bruins had both- but Bergeron has more a complete game but I wont diss Staal because he should be very good. Bergeron is just the pick when you watch shift after shift.