if we can agree on the top 5, who is 6-12 guarenteed

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  1. shayne

    shayne Registered User

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    if kane,JVR,cherapanov,Turris and voracek are locked in the top 5 just team preference then who is the next guarenteed 5 or 7

    i assume alzner,gagner but after that, what are their any locks
     
  2. Bam Beet*

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    I'd think as far as Esposito has fallen, he'll still be picked in the top 12.
     
  3. Langway

    Langway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Couture and Ellerby.
     
  4. PhoPhan

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    I hate to be a firebrand, but I would say that any of those top five guys could slip to 6 or 7, but I digress. I'd say Gagner, Alzner, Esposito, and Couture are pretty much locks for the top dozen.
     
  5. Fozz

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    No one can assume anything, inlcuding that the 5 players listed are locks for the top 5 picks.
    No one saw Wheeler go top-5 in '04 or Price in '05. You just don't know if a team is really high on a player and take him before anyone predicted.
     
  6. Stajan Fan

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    Mayorov will definitely be picked in the top 12. Although after the top 11 or so it's a real crapshoot.
     
  7. shayne

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    i think most will agree Wheeler never belonged at 5 and Price does...


    i just wondered based on ISS, and most mocks etc that their seems to be a top 5, maybe a top 7 then another 5 or 7 and i wondered if we could agree on who is the second tier
     
  8. hab 4ever

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    I agree about the top 5. I can only three top 5 locks : Kane, JVR and Voracek.
    I'd even go as far as taking Alzner before Cherepanov and maybe even before Turris.
     
  9. Erika

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    My list will look like this: Just for fun...

    1- Jakub Voracek
    2- Patrick Kane
    3- James Van Riemsdyk
    4- Kyle Turris
    5- Alexei Cherepanov
    6- Karl Alzner
    7- Logan Couture
    8- Sam Gagner
    9- Keaton Ellerby
    10- Angelo Esposito
    11- Maxim Mayorov
    12- Kevin Shattenkirk

    What do you guys think ? :)
     
  10. s7ark

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    6 - Couture
    7 - Gagner
    8 - Alzner
    9 - Esposito
    10 - Ellerby
    11 - Shattenkirk
    12 - Sutter/Plante/a few others.
     
  11. GSK*

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    Don't know but I hope the Habs draft Sam Gagner and Mikael Backlund.
     
  12. WesternEliteHockeyPr

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    Gillies will go ahead of Sutter

    Mark my words. I'd be suprised if Gillies fell past 15th overall.
     
  13. s7ark

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    Better trade up then...
     
  14. Freaky Habs Fan

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    The upside is there and the fact that he can play defence can be good for him. I wouldn't be surprise if the Habs draft him and make him the second comming of Brent Burns...
     
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    This doesn't look too bad, mine would probably look somethin like this:
    1- Jakub Voracek (best overall player in the draft IMO)
    2- James van Riemsdyk (been impressed with him for some time and a great U-18 I think raised his stock a bit)
    3- Patrick Kane (incredibly skilled; size should not matter)
    4- Kyle Turris (excellent scorer, an excellent package)
    5- Alexei Cherepanov (scoring touch is 2nd to none in the draft -- something you can't teach)
    6- Karl Alzner (the obvious best overall defender in the draft)
    7- Sam Gagner (awesome playmaker with nice hands)
    8- Logan Couture (great 2-way player; don't expect him to fall far)
    9- Keaton Ellerby (big, strong, stay-at-home types like him are hard to pass on, especically in a "not-so-spectacular draft")
    10- Maxim Mayorov (riser that I have a feeling someone will take a shot at early on)
    11- Nick Petrecki (big and nasty with a blazing shot? I'll wager some money that he hasn't fallen as far on scouts' radars as people around here seem to think)
    12- Angelo Esposito (seems people forgot that he still contains the portion boom from the phrase "boom or bust")
    13- Joakim Andersson (the skilled swede has been rising)
    14- Colton Gillies (2-way flyer may or may not find his offensive game, regardless, I have a feeling he wont take a free-fall)
    15- Alex Plante (another big d-man; smart, reliable defender)

    Honorable Mention: Mikael Backlund (has looked pretty good at the U-18 and IMO the knee injury isn't enough to make me forget about what many saw in him last year)
     
  16. rumrokh

    rumrokh Jake the Snake Man

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    If the Blues keep the 9th pick, I don't think they'll take Ellerby. It's not out of the question, but Jarmo likes dominant forwards with his early picks and goes for sleeper project defenders later on. I don't doubt they'll take a defender with one of their three first rounders, but unless Alzner is still up, that 9th will likely be used on a high skill forward.
     
  17. Redwingsfan

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    i like it. here is my top 30.:)

    1. pat kane
    2. james van riemsdyk
    3. jakub voracek
    4. alexei cherepanov
    5. kyle turris
    6. karl alzner
    7. sam gagner
    8. keaton ellerby
    9. logan couture
    10.kevin shattenkirk
    11.nick petrecki
    12.mark katic
    13.zach hamill
    14.maxim mayorov
    15.angelo esposito
    16.oscar moller
    17.brandon sutter
    18.joakim andersson
    19.brett maclean
    20.alex plante
    21.zack torquato
    22.billy sweatt
    23.jonathan blum
    24.ryan mcdonagh
    25.thomas hickey
    26.lars eller
    27.mikael backlund
    28.luca cunti
    29.colton gillies
    30.david perron

    what do you think??
     
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  18. Divine Wind

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    I think we might all be shocked a la Schremp in his draft. He plummeted way further than anyone had anticipated, including probaly Robbie himself.
     
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    i agree. i wouldnt be shocked if he was picked #20+
     
  20. The_Hockey_Guy18

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    No Bill Sweatt? :shakehead
     
  21. PhoPhan

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    There's no way Esposito falls that far. Anyone who has watched him play (and has managed to ignore the baseless opinions here about lack of character and work ethic) knows he's worth a top 15 pick if not a top 10.
     
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    allready taken care off. i forgot him:shakehead i have edited the post 3 times allready. lol.
     
  23. DaveG

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    This isn't a mock, there's players I'd have going a lot earlier/later then they are here in a mock (hell, I would have Esposito in my top 10 if this were a mock), that said here's my top 20:
    1) Pat Kane
    2) Jakub Voracek
    3) James van Riemsdyk
    4) Kyle Turris
    5) Alexei Cherepanov
    6) Logan Couture
    7) Karl Alzner
    8) Sam Gagner
    9) Nick Petrecki
    10) Zach Hamill
    11) Keaton Ellerby
    12) Alex Plante
    13) Maxim Mayorov
    14) Billy Sweatt
    15) Colton Gillies
    16) Joakim Anderson
    17) Mark Katic
    18) Brandon Sutter
    19) Oscar Moller
    20) Angelo Esposito
     
  24. harmonica

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    I think Plante will fall into the late teens to early twenties.
     
  25. Vagrant

    Vagrant The Czech Condor

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    I think Plante is going to be a surprise. There is going to be somebody in the Top 15 to be infatuated with his size and potential skill set that will take him. It only takes one team to fall in love with a prospect like Plante considering his immense potential. Same thing goes for Nick Petrecki.

    I actually think Shattenkirk will fall like Bobby Sanguinetti did last year.
     

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