Hey I'm not set in my opinions on Kyle. But right now I have no praise to give him and I'm not about a regular season banner. The last end of season press-conference just left a bad taste, An arrogant bunch who reward failure and talk about being future legends
Another sarcastic quip. I have to say, I admire your persistence and consistency. No worries, I can't help but be a fan of someone with the Tuttle moniker (though I miss your old avatar).
See that's the thing. People like you have labelled this a stupid deal which is well, stupid.
That I fully understand. I didn't watch it but from what I heard, it was pretty gross. Oh look, we found some common ground.
Another sarcastic quip. I have to say, I admire your persistence and consistency. No worries, I can't help but be a fan of someone with the Tuttle moniker (though I miss your old avatar).
See that's the thing. People like you have labelled this a stupid deal which is well, stupid.
Regular season
246 games
.911 SV%
Playoffs
51 games
.921 SV%
Those numbers are more than solid. Now of course there is bad news as well. His play over the last few years not being so good in one, and his injury history is another. So let's take these one at a time.
1)
Last season was actually pretty good (after two bad ones) and if the last game he played hadn't been a complete disaster (8 goals against), his numbers for the season would actually be quite impressive. So the recent history for him isn't bad at all.
2)
Injury history is an obvious concern but from the sounds of it, we did about as much due diligence here as could possibly done so assuming that another injury riddled season is forthcoming seems like a clear mistake.
Oh yeah, Murray also has been a big part of 2 cup wins, nice!
Murray is a gamble, no question. But there would be risk involved no matter what goalie we got. Maybe a 5 year term for Campbell/Kuemper would become an anchor, maybe someone like Gibson would cost a ton of assets and he'd never return to form, there would be risk no matter who we got.
Maybe this gamble will pay off and maybe it won't but deciding today that this was a dumb move is a thoughtless decision seemingly prompted by blind Dubas hate and for the time being, the smart money is sitting on the sidelines.
LOL. This is completely false. It is however accurate to say that there's no debating it with you, since your mind is made up.
basically your saying we can't form an opinion on anything and should be only discussing moves from years ago since they've already played out
I always listen to and read opinions of other people, perhaps you should do the same. And as far as the Murray trade goes, you're the one who's made up your mind, not me.
The value we got for taking on the 4.7 cap hit can be evaluated today. Grade: Dumb move.
Sorry this move was a panic move once a lot of the options were gone. The reason I say it's a panic move cause it a complete change in direction from the plan that was leaked. The plan was to go and get a young goalie who hasn't broken out yet.
We'll see how things play out but right now, I see a talented team wasting years on a rookie GM who is set in his ways. And a coach who isn't up to the task in the playoffs. Frustrating and disheartening. And yes the press conference was cringe worthy. Keefe's comments leading up to and during the playoffs "it will be violent", basically happy with the split, handshake respect, also cringe. And if they sign Malgin I may need to go for a walk lolThat I fully understand. I didn't watch it but from what I heard, it was pretty gross. Oh look, we found some common ground.
Good to hear that you're not set in your opinions on Kyle, that's not the impression I've got from your posts over the last few months. But that's understandable I guess, I certainly don't read everything posted here. But yeah he says some cringeworthy things at times and I wish he'd keep his mouth shut more often.
If Murray plays up to his cap hit, the trade will be the opposite of dumb. We did our due diligence, apparently we believe that Murray can stay healthy and if he does, there's a good chance he will work out very well for us indeed.
I haven't heard this, what's your source here? Link?
Yeah I get it. It's a frustrating time to be a Leaf fan, no doubt about it. 6 1st round exits, there are no words to express how awful that is. On the other hand, we had a record breaking regular season and will again be among the cup favourites next season no doubt so it's not impossible that playoff success is just around the corner.
I pointed out that you're contradicting yourself, you have no answer for that so instead of admitting your mistake, you're ignoring me. Impressive!
Do tell, what options did we have that had "far less risk" attached to them?
That's two people by my count and I have been ignoring them for some time now. They're now massively outnumbered by what seems to be hundreds of people like you who just shit on everything Dubas ever does, or has done.
I never mock anyone for having an opinion. I may mock the opinions themselves at times and yes, IMHO some of your opinions in the past have definitely qualified for that honor.
This post is among the most ironic I've ever read here. Ever since our season ended, I've seen probably over 100 posts by you and they're all the same - one sarcastic quip after another. You're the poster boy for the crowd who is no longer interested in any serious discussion.
I've pointed out some of these things many times. When I made this particular post, I was just too jaded/tired to do it all over again. I've said it before, Dubas has done more good than bad IMO but he's definitely done some of both. And the post I was responding to listed a bunch of things as fact (bad trades) that are nothing more than opinions and when opinions are stated as facts, that's a sign that honest discussion isn't an option.
The only posters worth engaging in discussion are the ones who aren't part of the loud majority who are shitting all over anything and everything Dubas has ever done, and aren't part of the smaller (but persistent Zekes posse) who are the opposite. Luckily there is still intelligent, thoughtful discussion to be had here but there's just so much nonsense to sift through before you find it.
If what I posted was silliness, Ok maybe it was. You can forgive me, or not. Completely up to you. Cheers!
Pretty much this. Though I have to say that as far as vaccines go, there's a lack of solid information and people with bad reactions to the vaccine tend to not have their voices heard and it's almost impossible for them to get answers to their questions. It's gotten to the point that I even understand why some of them are starting to believe in conspiracy theories. So I'm not on either side in this as I believe vaccines have done more good then bad but at the same time, the bad is being shut out from the mainstream news, probably because it would lead to more people not getting vaccinated. I think there's enough questions without clear answers that nobody should too entrenched in their positions but I believe you're right - most people are on one side or the other which is most unfortunate as IMHO, it's all one big gray area.
I've never believed in this sort of thing. Can you help me understand how you imagine this happening - how exactly would Bettman go about "pushing for it"?
Agreed, today's not the day for vaccine talk. I will just very briefly say that I have seen vaccine side effects first hand on a close family member, it's been about a year now and there's no end in sight. As the saying goes, the shit's real. It's a game of russian roulette basically, not good.
