Blue Jays Discussion: If a Blue Jay falls in a Tavares/Kawhi forest and no one's around to hear it, does it make a sound?

[TheMadHatTrick]

McG Contreras can't take a walk to save his life but he's hitting. .270 with an .885 ops and 7 homeruns so far for Vancouver.

 

[Longshot]

We should get a betting pool going.

Who makes it back to major league game action first: Troy "I really do exist" Tulowitzki or Aaron "Hangnail" Sanchez?

 

[trellaine201]

Donaldson on the list too.

 

[Suntouchable13]

I don't trust Donaldson't calfs to stay healthy ever from this point on, I don't think anyone should. He is almost a guaranteed DL stint per year guy now. It's disappointing that such a talented player is ruined by glass calfs.

 

[The Nemesis]

Jonah Keri throwing a bit of shade on Jack Morris' HOF cred.

 

[rojac]

Jonah Keri throwing a bit of shade on Jack Morris' HOF cred.

Maybe I’m missing something in what you’re laughing at but I’m under the impression he is widely considered a questionable choice for Cooperstown.

 

[The Nemesis]

Maybe I’m missing something in what you’re laughing at but i’m under the impression he is widely considered. A questionable choice.

I'm laughing at Keri's willingness to do it on the air. In a supportive sort of way. Morris is a questionable choice. Keri rightfully says that he's largely getting in on the back of being part of some memorable Tigers teams and a pair of WS-winning Blue Jays teams. It's just funny when most of the media are the ones on the pro-Morris "he was a winner, he pitched to the score of the game, he knew how to win" bandwgon, or at the very list tend to tiptoe very carefully around the idea that maybe Morris doesn't have a sufficient HOF case. It's refreshing that Keri is willing to be honest and mostly straightforward about it.

Jack Morris is basically now the Clark Gilles of the baseball HOF: he's going to be the "well if he gets in, then <insert favorite marginal HOF candidate player> should get in." argument from here to eternity.

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[phillipmike]

Nick Mandrigal has zero strikeouts in 58 PAs.

 

[zeke]

We should get a betting pool going.

Who makes it back to major league game action first: Troy "I really do exist" Tulowitzki or Aaron "Hangnail" Sanchez?

Big Read: Inside the Toronto Blue Jays' high performance department - Sportsnet.ca

Sports science is baseball's next arms race. With their high performance department, the Toronto Blue Jays may be leading the pack.

“In a lot of ways, the Blue Jays are building a ballplayer factory and tricking it out with the most modern machinery available.”

"Of course, Sanchez had other ideas. With an ERA title in his sights, he argued he’d earned the right to continue starting based on his strict discipline and dedication to conditioning throughout the season. He had a point. He’d utilized every resource available to him through the high performance department, following a strict conditioning regimen and a daily eating plan that was broken down to the minute. The Blue Jays did not have overwhelming evidence suggesting Sanchez’s workload was a detriment or that he wasn’t prepared to finish the season as a starter. A deal was struck between the coaching staff, the front office, the high performance department and Sanchez himself to slow him down slightly but not remove him from the rotation altogether, as was originally planned. The Blue Jays went to a six-man rotation, and Sanchez’s final two months were carefully planned out with more time given between his outings. He made 11 starts from that point through the end of the post-season and finished the year as the American League leader in ERA with a new career-high of 203.2 innings pitched.

“Aaron is just an incredible professional. All credit goes to him for his dedication to his routine, his mind and his body,” Mugford says. “For somebody his age, it was exceptional. I think in a lot of ways he’s shown himself as a role model for how someone can really look after themselves. It was a special thing to see the success he had. That wasn’t an accident. It was his dedication.”

In the end, it was a brilliant example of how the Blue Jays hope the high performance department can impact their major-league team. The goal of the unit is to put the player at the centre of everything and have the many resources the Blue Jays provide operating in harmony around him. The club compares its many services to the spokes of a wheel, with the player being the hub."

"But for now, the most apparent results you’ll see from the department will likely come with players like Pearce, who arrive from other organizations and are taken aback by the army of performance specialists they encounter. Still sweating from his latest bodyweight routine, Pearce laughs about how he used to work out. How he used to focus on beach muscles and looking swollen after a round of heavy deadlifts, squats and presses. He can’t believe he didn’t learn to work out this way until now."

 

[The Nemesis]

That's actually kind of a depressing read because it makes Vlad Sr come off like a bit of a tool.

 

[phillipmike]

This Yankee fans don't know JA Happ. Put a defence behind him and you might have found a number 2.

Replacing Jordan Montgomery, Yankees Acquire JA Happ - The Runner Sports

Reacting to the Yankees' trades of Zach Britton, J.A. Happ

6 innings, 3 hits and 1 walk. Yankees with 6-3 on a good start from Happ.

 

[Boutette]

I'm laughing at Keri's willingness to do it on the air. In a supportive sort of way. Morris is a questionable choice. Keri rightfully says that he's largely getting in on the back of being part of some memorable Tigers teams and a pair of WS-winning Blue Jays teams. It's just funny when most of the media are the ones on the pro-Morris "he was a winner, he pitched to the score of the game, he knew how to win" bandwgon, or at the very list tend to tiptoe very carefully around the idea that maybe Morris doesn't have a sufficient HOF case. It's refreshing that Keri is willing to be honest and mostly straightforward about it.

Jack Morris is basically now the Clark Gilles of the baseball HOF: he's going to be the "well if he gets in, then <insert favorite marginal HOF candidate player> should get in." argument from here to eternity.

Him getting might be the enabler that gets Halladay in though, so there is that.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

This Yankee fans don't know JA Happ. Put a defence behind him and you might have found a number 2.

Replacing Jordan Montgomery, Yankees Acquire JA Happ - The Runner Sports

Reacting to the Yankees' trades of Zach Britton, J.A. Happ

6 innings, 3 hits and 1 walk. Yankees with 6-3 on a good start from Happ.

I had a nice chuckle. I probably know less about baseball than them, but even I could see that it was prime Leafs-level misevaluation of player value right there...

 

[MS]

I'm laughing at Keri's willingness to do it on the air. In a supportive sort of way. Morris is a questionable choice. Keri rightfully says that he's largely getting in on the back of being part of some memorable Tigers teams and a pair of WS-winning Blue Jays teams. It's just funny when most of the media are the ones on the pro-Morris "he was a winner, he pitched to the score of the game, he knew how to win" bandwgon, or at the very list tend to tiptoe very carefully around the idea that maybe Morris doesn't have a sufficient HOF case. It's refreshing that Keri is willing to be honest and mostly straightforward about it.

Jack Morris is basically now the Clark Gilles of the baseball HOF: he's going to be the "well if he gets in, then <insert favorite marginal HOF candidate player> should get in." argument from here to eternity.

I'd say Morris is closer to Glenn Anderson. Was a very good player for a lot longer than Gillies with a tremendous clutch playoff resume.

I don't have a huge problem with Morris and find it odd that there is so much criticism of his selection as a 44 WAR player with one of the best postseason pitching records in recent memory and so little of Trevor Hoffman's historically irrelevant 28 WAR career getting inducted.

If Madison Bumgarner stalls out at 45 WAR I have no problem with him going in. Playoffs still matter, a lot.

 

[The Nemesis]

Him getting might be the enabler that gets Halladay in though, so there is that.

Morris should have no bearing on Doc's case.

Jack Morris wishes he had Roy Halladay's personal career (setting aside WS wins)

 

[The Nemesis]

I'd say Morris is closer to Glenn Anderson. Was a very good player for a lot longer than Gillies with a tremendous clutch playoff resume.

I don't have a huge problem with Morris and find it odd that there is so much criticism of his selection as a 44 WAR player with one of the best postseason pitching records in recent memory and so little of Trevor Hoffman's historically irrelevant 28 WAR career getting inducted.

If Madison Bumgarner stalls out at 45 WAR I have no problem with him going in. Playoffs still matter, a lot.

Hoffman's relevancy is different because his WAR potential is limited by being a closer.

I'm OK with Hoffman like I'm OK with Rivera. But that's pretty much it as far as closers go. They get in for being the best at their position for an ungodly length of time and being head and shoulders above basically all their peers. I can't see anyone else in the closer community who is anywhere near having enough impact and longevity necessary.

 

[The Nemesis]

In honor of that Vlad Sr/Jr piece that just aired, why not relive it one more time:

 

[MS]

Hoffman's relevancy is different because his WAR potential is limited by being a closer.

I'm OK with Hoffman like I'm OK with Rivera. But that's pretty much it as far as closers go. They get in for being the best at their position for an ungodly length of time and being head and shoulders above basically all their peers. I can't see anyone else in the closer community who is anywhere near having enough impact and longevity necessary.

It's limited by being a closer ... because closers are part-time players. It's like inducting Bunny Laraque for being the best backup goalie ever.

Rivera had 56 WAR in addition to throwing 141 postseason IP with a 0.70 ERA. He belongs, along with maybe Hoyt Wilhelm as the only other reliever in the BHOF.

That Hoffman is in before Mussina and Schilling is a complete farce, and he's a 10x worse induction than Morris.

 

[MS]

The way Sportsnet is pushing Guerrero Jr. is getting ridiculous. The lead item on their news coverage last night was a minor-league player getting promoted to AAA.

You start to wonder how much pressure from the team's ownership/broadcaster will impact his timeframe in getting to MLB, regardless of what management might think is best. Calling him up now instead of early next year would be worth $millions in seat sales, merchandise, and TV viewers.

 

[BAM]

The way Sportsnet is pushing Guerrero Jr. is getting ridiculous. The lead item on their news coverage last night was a minor-league player getting promoted to AAA.

You start to wonder how much pressure from the team's ownership/broadcaster will impact his timeframe in getting to MLB, regardless of what management might think is best. Calling him up now instead of early next year would be worth $millions in seat sales, merchandise, and TV viewers.

Meh, Juan Soto is also a teenager and up with the Nationals and producing well. An argument management has already held him down longer than need be. He's the best prospect in baseball for a reason and he's going to be a star, that's not really a question.

 

[zeke]

it's already embarassing that he hasn't been called up.

 

[Muston Atthews]

In honor of that Vlad Sr/Jr piece that just aired, why not relive it one more time:

The biggest of dongs

 

[canucksfan]

 

[Nineteen67]

I'd say Morris is closer to Glenn Anderson. Was a very good player for a lot longer than Gillies with a tremendous clutch playoff resume.

I don't have a huge problem with Morris and find it odd that there is so much criticism of his selection as a 44 WAR player with one of the best postseason pitching records in recent memory and so little of Trevor Hoffman's historically irrelevant 28 WAR career getting inducted.

If Madison Bumgarner stalls out at 45 WAR I have no problem with him going in. Playoffs still matter, a lot.

Jack Morris was a really good ball player and was worth watching.
He had winning mentality.
I guess he doesn’t win fantasy league points, obviously he can be any good.