Recalled/Assigned: Hutchinson Back Up, Kaskisuo Sent Down

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Well here's your 900k options currently active in a backup or call up role.
PLAYERTEAMAGEGPWLSOGAASv%CAP HIT
11. Elvis MerzlikinsColumbus Blue JacketsCBJ2570303.340.895$874,125
13. Chris DriedgerFlorida PanthersFLA25110101$850,000
12. Malcolm SubbanVegas Golden KnightsVGK2593402.840.908$850,000
14. Adam WernerColorado AvalancheCOL2221103.410.914$842,500
15. Alexandar GeorgievNew York RangersNYR23116413.080.912$792,500
17. Kaapo KähkönenMinnesota WildMIN22110020.941$767,500
18. Calvin PickardDetroit Red WingsDET27101060.829$750,000
19. Garret SparksVegas Golden KnightsVGK2610004.440.857$750,000
21. Samuel MontembeaultFlorida PanthersFLA2273203.310.889$708,750
22. Marcus HögbergOttawa SenatorsOTT2410102.030.923$700,000
29. Antoine BibeauColorado AvalancheCOL2521003.260.881$675,000
26. Jack CampbellLos Angeles KingsLAK27104502.880.894$675,000
27. Tristan JarryPittsburgh PenguinsPIT2495402.270.929$675,000
25. Oscar DanskVegas Golden KnightsVGK25101060.838$675,000
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3 of those duds are ex-Leafs in Sparks, Pickard and Bibeau.

I think of that entire list it has to be Tristan Jarry that would be you best bet, as I don't think Georgiev can be had in trade.

Keep in mind there is still an option of dealing a roster player like Kapanen or Kerfoot etc and add a $2-3 mil backup option.
 

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3 of those duds are ex-Leafs in Sparks, Pickard and Bibeau.

I think of that entire list it has to be Tristan Jarry that would be you best bet, as I don't think Georgiev can be had in trade.

Keep in mind there is still an option of dealing a roster player like Kapanen or Kerfoot etc and add a $2-3 mil backup option.

Rangers fans are open to moving Georgiev. He isn't their future.
 

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3 of those duds are ex-Leafs in Sparks, Pickard and Bibeau.

I think of that entire list it has to be Tristan Jarry that would be you best bet, as I don't think Georgiev can be had in trade.

Keep in mind there is still an option of dealing a roster player like Kapanen or Kerfoot etc and add a $2-3 mil backup option.
That's a very steep price to pay for a backup. I would rather deal a lesser player and pick and have the other team retain.
 

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Rangers fans are open to moving Georgiev. He isn't their future.

He has played against our Leafs in the past and looked good.

I think King Henrich is nearing the end so I'd surprised if they were interested in dealing their younger goalies in the system.
 

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What a story it would be to reacquire Sparks and he stood on his head and played lights out ...
And if Fred got injured in the playoffs and Sparky came in and took us to the promised land and win the cup and the Conn Smythe


Omg omg I just woke up and had this incredibly crazy dream
Oops spilled something ;(
 

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That's a very steep price to pay for a backup. I would rather deal a lesser player and pick and have the other team retain.

Teams like Boston and Isles are near the top of the league because they have invested in a backup that can share a load with your starter allowing your #1 to stay fresh.

When you play a scrub at $1 mil you often get what you pay for and if your starter misses games your season is over.

While it would have to be quite a goalie you were getting here, it would something to consider if the right player was there. IMO

Our Leafs are in serious danger of missing the playoffs due the mistakes made at backup goalie and going cheap so that is something that would throw the whole season away.
 

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Teams like Boston and Isles are near the top of the league because they have invested in a backup that can share a load with your starter allowing your #1 to stay fresh.

When you play a scrub at $1 mil you often get what you pay for and if your starter misses games your season is over.

While it would have to be quite a goalie you were getting here, it would something to consider if the right player was there. IMO

Our Leafs are in serious danger of missing the playoffs due the mistakes made at backup goalie and going cheap so that is something that would throw the whole season away.

Here's a breakdown of teams in the league & a percentage of goaltender that has played the most. The list is as of current standings per conference. First column is total team games played & 2nd column of GP is goaltender GP.

GP GP% OF GMS PLAYED
1BOS27RASK1762.96%
2WSH28HOLTBY2071.43%
3NYI25GREISS1352.00%
4PHI27HART1762.96%
5CAR27MRAZEK1866.67%
6PIT27MURRAY2074.07%
7FLA26BOBROVSKY2180.77%
8BUF28HUTTON1450.00%
9TOR28ANDERSEN2175.00%
10NYR26LUNDQVIST1765.38%
11MTL27PRICE2281.48%
12TBL24VASILEVSKIY1770.83%
13CLB26KORPISALO2076.92%
14OTT27ANDERSON1451.85%
15NJ26BLACKWOOD1973.08%
16DET30BERNIER1860.00%
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GP GP% OF GMS PLAYED
1STL29BINNINGTON2172.41%
2EDM29KOSKINEN1655.17%
3COL26GRUBAUER1661.54%
4ARI28KUEMPER1864.29%
5WIN27HELLEBUYCK2177.78%
6DAL28BISHOP1967.86%
7VGK29FLEURY2068.97%
8SJ28JONES2278.57%
9VAN28MARKSTROM1864.29%
10CAL29RITTICH2379.31%
11NASH26RINNE1557.69%
12MIN27STALOCK1555.56%
13ANA28GIBSON2175.00%
14CHI27CRAWFORD1555.56%
15LAK28QUICK1864.29%
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He has played against our Leafs in the past and looked good.

I think King Henrich is nearing the end so I'd surprised if they were interested in dealing their younger goalies in the system.
I think they are counting on Shestyorkin to be the answer
Sorry just saw someone posted this already
 

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IDK his positioning looks questionable to me. There were some times when a puck should have just hit him and easily should have been smothered, but it led to either a goal directly or a huge rebound for another big scoring chance. That's more than being slow.
Maybe I am not a goalie coach (my theory is old school - stop da puck and guy who does it best plays) but if you talk with Grecs he might tell you something different.
 

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Keeping Sparks over Curtis was the right move... it just didn't work out.

Moving Sparks, was the right move, he was done here, and no matter how he plays in the future, it wasn't going to work for him here. Note, Sparks has a 0.857 Save Percentage in his single NHL game this year, before being sent to the AHL, where as per normal, he's doing quite well. Looks like a good AHL career goalie at this point, unless later in his career, he can remake his mental game.

Hopefully the next move works out.

Agreed. Agreed.

Protecting a young home grown asset with A longer term goal of development in mind is absolutely the right move. Apply it to any other position. Only problem is it didn’t work out specifically because Sparks was a dud.

On the other hand, I wish the Leafs would upgrade their goalie department. Seems like something that hasn’t really been upgraded much over the years and their ability to scout and evaluate goalies hasn’t been good.
 
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Agreed. Agreed.

Protecting a young home grown asset with A longer term goal of development in mind is absolutely the right move. Apply it to any other position. Only problem is it didn’t work out specifically because Sparks was a dud.

On the other hand, I wish the Leafs would upgrade their goalie department. Seems like something that hasn’t really been upgraded much over the years and their ability to scout and evaluate goalies hasn’t been good.

Exactly

10/10 times i want thr Leafs to turn to the home grown prospect talent over older vet player. Sometimes it wont work out, but thats the risk of gambling on youth.

That said, imo tur biggest legot criticism of Dubas was not solvong the backup isssue sooner like over this summer -though few predicated Hutch would quite be this bad.
 

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Exactly

10/10 times i want thr Leafs to turn to the home grown prospect talent over older vet player. Sometimes it wont work out, but thats the risk of gambling on youth.

That said, imo tur biggest legot criticism of Dubas was not solvong the backup isssue sooner like over this summer -though few predicated Hutch would quite be this bad.

Not even solving the backup goalie issue, for me we may need to completely revamp the goalie department as nothing has really emerged from there since JFJ was drafting Rask and Reimer.
 
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Not even solving the backup goalie issue, for me we may need to completely revamp the goalie department as nothing has really emerged from there since JFJ was drafting Rask and Reimer.

Im hoping one of Scott or Woll will turn into something.

But agreed, has been an organizational blindspot for years now
 
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I personally look at goalies as voodoo. You've just got to keep on picking some, and hope that they turn into something. I don't think it's just our scouting, but I don't think what a goalie is, in junior, is a great predictor of their future.

Take the 2010 NHL Draft.

The most successful goalie, chosen in 2010, was our very own Frederick Andersen. He was the 187th pick overall.

There were 18 goalies picked before him.

Here are the guys who were drafted, and the position they were drafted. The first ELEVEN guys drafted combined, have about the same number of games as Freddy alone... I just randomly picked this particular year, but I doubt that any other year is different. Goalies are voodoo, you get lucky, or you don't... you pick enough, sooner or later, something works.

111DallasJack CampbellGU.S. National Development Team [USHL]4801102019-20
127PhoenixMark VisentinGNiagara IceDogs [OHL]100002013-14
249ColoradoCalvin PickardGSeattle Thunderbirds [WHL]10503342019-20
258ChicagoKent SimpsonGEverett Silvertips [WHL]100002013-14
384New JerseyScott WedgewoodGPlymouth Whalers [OHL]2400022017-18
492FloridaSam BrittainGCanmore Eagles [AJHL]
4102ColumbusMathieu Corbeil-TheriaultGHalifax Mooseheads [QMJHL]
4107ColoradoSami AittokallioGIlves Jr. [Finland]200002013-14
4112WashingtonPhilipp GrubauerGWindsor Spitfires [OHL]15401122019-20
5121EdmontonTyler BunzGMedicine Hat Tigers [WHL]100002014-15
5128AtlantaFredrik Petterson-WentzelGAlmtuna IS [Swe-1]
5138PhoenixLouis DomingueGQuebec Remparts [QMJHL]12602262019-20
5141DetroitPetr MrazekGOttawa 67's [OHL]241033102019-20
6159MinnesotaJohan GustafssonGFarjestads BK Karlstad [SEL]
6165BostonZane McIntyreGThief River Falls H.S [Minn.]800002016-17
6174New JerseyMaxime ClermontGGatineau Olympiques [QMJHL]
6175VancouverJonathan IilahtiGBlues Jrs (Finland)
7184ColumbusMartin OuelletteGKimball Union H.S. [N.H.]
7185NY IslandersCody RosenGClarkson University [ECAC]
7187CarolinaFrederik AndersenGFrederikshavn White Hawks [Denmark]338088262019-20
7191ChicagoMac CarruthGPortland Winterhawks [WHL]
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3 of those duds are ex-Leafs in Sparks, Pickard and Bibeau.

I think of that entire list it has to be Tristan Jarry that would be you best bet, as I don't think Georgiev can be had in trade.

Keep in mind there is still an option of dealing a roster player like Kapanen or Kerfoot etc and add a $2-3 mil backup option.

Probably the most logical approach IMO......seems we have enough forwards that we can afford to move a low-mid contract.
 

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Kinkaid would be a better option. I don't think you have to pay for a back-up tender. You can probably get him for Hutchinson + Marincin. Something along those lines. They can retain some money on that.

Hutch going tonight - gotta believe if he ****s the bed, it will be his last game with us.
 

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Hutch going tonight - gotta believe if he ****s the bed, it will be his last game with us.

After all of the showings that he's had, I don't get how anyone could be confident in him actually standing on his head & winning the Leafs a game.

And the way the Leafs respond after giving up goals, makes me also think that the only way they will show up is if he does stand on his head. They quit after the 3rd goal last night against Philly & hung the starting goaltender out to dry. There's nothing to suggest that they will try and rebound for a guy that should be playing in the AHL.
 

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This is so utterly self-inflicted it's laughable. Our GM budgeted league minimum for his backup goaltending. The backup goalie plays around 25% of the total minutes the team plays in a season. That's more than the team's 4th defenseman. That's more than the team's 3rd liners. Last season Hutch and Sparks combined played more total minutes than Marleau, Gardiner, MATTHEWS, Hyman, Kadri, Brown, Dermott, Johnsson. Why is that league minimum fodder?

It has to be one of the most foolish roster decisions by a Leafs' GM.
 

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