Hurricanes Lounge XXVII: BURN THE NEW SERVERS!

[Wolfpuck]

I do do them all!

Haha, do do

 

[Breakdowns]

HFboards trying to censor me...

 

[Wolfpuck]

HFboards trying to censor me...

**** that ****!

 

[the halleJOKEL]

uconn, Ohio state, Penn State, USC, Etc should all be absolutely livid

 

[PlamsUnlimited]

I don't even read posts anymore. I just hit like automatically.

You didn't like mine

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[NotOpie]

UNC getting off basically says it's okay for student athletes to take fake classes to maintain eligibility. That is, unless you're not a powerhouse like UNC. Then, like UConn and Syracuse and Memphis, you will get Final Fours and wins vacated.

I work in a business that sells to colleges and universities, so I deal with senior administrators all the time. One Monday, I was at a conference filled with Vice Presidents, Provosts, Vice Chancellors from across the country. They all knew the UNC decision was pending before I had even heard it was made public.

Regardless, I chatted up several of these folks and they were universally preaching the same message. 1) UNC was going to get off scott free. 2) The NCAA is a corrupt cabal that has place self-interest and, specifically, financial gain of the organization above all else. And 3) the biggest sin of all was that the accrediting body for UNC (Southern Association of Colleges and Schools) had done essentially less than nothing.

At least two Provosts (chief academic officers) that I spoke with said that if they had done what UNC had done, their athletics programs would almost assuredly would have been given something akin too an SMU-esque death sentence. Further they would have also equally assuredly lost their accreditation for a significant period of time. Others in the event walked up while I was speaking to one Provost in particular, nodding in agreement and commenting in the affirmative.

The general consensus was that UNC, Duke, perhaps NCSU, and Wake Forest, had they done the same thing, would generally have been treated similarly by the accrediting body because they would have been fearful of the public outcry. In the end, the accrediting process is damaged irreparably. The NCAA proves that it is not only ineffective but corrupt beyond comprehension. There is no doubt in my mind that we will see a significant portion of the larger institutions ultimately strike out on their own which should finally lead to the collapse of the NCAA.

 

[vorbis]

I work in a business that sells to colleges and universities, so I deal with senior administrators all the time. One Monday, I was at a conference filled with Vice Presidents, Provosts, Vice Chancellors from across the country. They all knew the UNC decision was pending before I had even heard it was made public.

Regardless, I chatted up several of these folks and they were universally preaching the same message. 1) UNC was going to get off scott free. 2) The NCAA is a corrupt cabal that has place self-interest and, specifically, financial gain of the organization above all else. And 3) the biggest sin of all was that the accrediting body for UNC (Southern Association of Colleges and Schools) had done essentially less than nothing.

At least two Provosts (chief academic officers) that I spoke with said that if they had done what UNC had done, their athletics programs would almost assuredly would have been given something akin too an SMU-esque death sentence. Further they would have also equally assuredly lost their accreditation for a significant period of time. Others in the event walked up while I was speaking to one Provost in particular, nodding in agreement and commenting in the affirmative.

The general consensus was that UNC, Duke, perhaps NCSU, and Wake Forest, had they done the same thing, would generally have been treated similarly by the accrediting body because they would have been fearful of the public outcry. In the end, the accrediting process is damaged irreparably. The NCAA proves that it is not only ineffective but corrupt beyond comprehension. There is no doubt in my mind that we will see a significant portion of the larger institutions ultimately strike out on their own which should finally lead to the collapse of the NCAA.

I am in favor of the outcome you describe in the last paragraph. break up the cabal.

 

[DaveG]

 

[Finnish Jerk Train]

belongs in likes thread tbh imo

 

[tarheelhockey]

Damn, I was so close to winning.

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

@DaveG I hate you

 

[HisIceness]

I like Chickens. I like Chicken too, it is tasty.

 

[Wolfpuck]

we lose gaem

 

[vorbis]

I actually own this album of literally a bunch of rockabilly songs about chicken by Hasil Adkins https://www.discogs.com/Hasil-Adkins-Poultry-In-Motion/release/838433

 

[tarheelhockey]

 

[vorbis]

RIP John Dunsworth AKA Mr Lahey on the Trailer Park Boys. he was so good.

 

[Roboturner913]

All this foolishness has really been welcome the last few days fellas. Needed a fun distraction.

My dog is 12-13 years old and has been really sick, some kind of blood cancer I think. I've put off thinking about it but the last few days I've come to realize I'm gonna have to let him go, and I've been pretty down about that, especially with not knowing how to explain this to the kids and stuff.

The next 2-3 days are going suck out loud. I've never had to do this before so any and all advice is appreciated.

 

[MinJaBen]

All this foolishness has really been welcome the last few days fellas. Needed a fun distraction.

My dog is 12-13 years old and has been really sick, some kind of blood cancer I think. I've put off thinking about it but the last few days I've come to realize I'm gonna have to let him go, and I've been pretty down about that, especially with not knowing how to explain this to the kids and stuff.

The next 2-3 days are going suck out loud. I've never had to do this before so any and all advice is appreciated.

I had to do that the week of my thesis defense about 6 years ago. Wife was out of town, so I had to both take him in and then break the news to the kids after school. Easily one of the worst days of my life. I've got no advice for you. Except...

...our situation was emergent. When we got up that morning Darwin (our dogo) couldn't stand and had emptied his bowels on his sleeping mat. He probably had a stroke of some kind, so we had to let him go that day. But if you have a small bit of time and your dogo is not suffering too much pain, I'd do something like this if I were given the chance for a do over.

Dog's Last Day

Sorry for your loss.

 

[tarheelhockey]

All this foolishness has really been welcome the last few days fellas. Needed a fun distraction.

My dog is 12-13 years old and has been really sick, some kind of blood cancer I think. I've put off thinking about it but the last few days I've come to realize I'm gonna have to let him go, and I've been pretty down about that, especially with not knowing how to explain this to the kids and stuff.

The next 2-3 days are going suck out loud. I've never had to do this before so any and all advice is appreciated.

How old are the kids? Depending on their age, they can handle death MUCH better than we adults.

 

[Finnish Jerk Train]

We had to do that a year ago, almost (if not exactly) to the day. She was struggling for a long time - she ran out in front of a car when she was 2, which left her with arthritis in her hips and the leg that was broken, but she still made it to 14. She was in pain for a long time, which we were able to keep at bay for a while with supplements and whatnot. But in the last couple of months, we couldn't find anything strong enough to keep her legs from giving out from under her. She was also deaf and went mute at some point in the last few months - we're not sure when, but one day we realized she was no longer barking, talking, or whimpering, which was out of character for a formerly bossy dog. Her only audible communication was panting when she had to go out. She had been in diapers for at least a year, but even with the diapers, we had to keep her in a child's playpen with a plastic sheet under it when we left the house so that she wouldn't ruin the floors. We finally let her go once she started falling over in the middle of her (very light) meals and would give us "the look" as she tried to get up again.

Honestly, I thought it was long overdue by that point, but it was really hard for my wife to come to grips with it. They had a special bond - she had become her family's dog after failing the seeing-eye puppy test when my wife was about 15, then came to live with her when pancreatic cancer took her mother a couple of years beforehand. I would hint at it, but because I didn't have the same history with her, I was never able to tell my wife directly that I thought it was time to put her down. So I ended up waiting for her to be ready. Even when she finally was, knowing how much of a relief it would be to all of us, I still could only barely bring myself to sign the vet order to do it.

It's never easy. We don't have kids (at least not for another three weeks), so I don't really have any advice on how to handle that part of it, but for us grown-ups it really just took time to get used to her being gone.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

It's gonna hurt, and you're gonna cry, on and off, for years.

Have a dog's last day, if your doggo is up for it, and make a video. You'll want as much video as you can get when it's over, and you'll watch those videos, on and off, for years.

The quote my wife put on Facebook the day we lost our Bear:

"Not the least hard thing to bear when they go from us, these quiet friends, is that they carry away with them so many years of our own lives. Yet, if they find warmth therein, who would grudge them those years that they have so guarded? Nothing else of us can they take to lie upon with outstretched paws and chin pressed to the ground; and, whatever they take, be sure they have deserved." -John Galsworthy

Good luck, dude. I'm glad we got to have some fun these past few days.

 

[Roboturner913]

I had to do that the week of my thesis defense about 6 years ago. Wife was out of town, so I had to both take him in and then break the news to the kids after school. Easily one of the worst days of my life. I've got no advice for you. Except...

...our situation was emergent. When we got up that morning Darwin (our dogo) couldn't stand and had emptied his bowels on his sleeping mat. He probably had a stroke of some kind, so we had to let him go that day. But if you have a small bit of time and your dogo is not suffering too much pain, I'd do something like this if I were given the chance for a do over.

Dog's Last Day

Sorry for your loss.

I would love to do something like that, except poor fella's not up for it. He pretty much just lays on the floor on his side, doesn't eat, barely drinks water at all. When he does eat he just vomits it back up, so he's lost about 20 pounds in the last couple months. Got these big tumors and growths all over his stomach and swelling in his legs, turning purple from hemorraghing. The vet tells us he's probably not in too much pain but it's no life for him. He doesn't wag his tail anymore when he sees us, etc. It's just time. I can't let him sit there and starve himself to death. It very much reminds me of when my father-in-law died, the whole process of it happening.

 

[Roboturner913]

How old are the kids? Depending on their age, they can handle death MUCH better than we adults.

6 , 3 and 1. The little one, it's not really an issue with him. The oldest is going to be devastated, I've been trying to break it gently to him for a couple weeks to get him ready for it without much success. The 3 year old won't understand, but he's going to ask about a hundred times a day where the dog is which is just going to make it worse with all the constant reminders.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Yeah, that’s pretty much gonna be the dynamic, isn’t it? Well, based on years ago when I had to break it to my 5 year old that the family dog had died (hit by car) my only advice is make it quick and clean. Like, one sentence to set it up and then one sentence to drop the news, then wait for a reaction and go from there. Try to keep a clear mind about whether you’re talking to your own emotions around having to have the conversation.

Sorry man.

 

[Unsustainable]

6 , 3 and 1. The little one, it's not really an issue with him. The oldest is going to be devastated, I've been trying to break it gently to him for a couple weeks to get him ready for it without much success. The 3 year old won't understand, but he's going to ask about a hundred times a day where the dog is which is just going to make it worse with all the constant reminders.

If your 3 year old is anything like mine... she doesn’t forget a thing.