Speculation: HOW will/should DRW resolve roster squeeze? (3 goalies, Ed, danielsson)

[lhsgolf19]

 

[Detroit Knights]

meh

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It was also the season where they had one of the worst teams in the league and because of covid and weird playoff structure, they were able to move through the postseason....

and if you change that to postseason, they only played 40 minutes together in 30 games, so there's that too. Regardless, that's why I said "apparently" because a couple people on here said they were.

 

[schuelma24]

welp there it is. Hope Berggren leaves them no choice soon.

The upside is I'll see a pretty awesome young lineup in GR next weekend..

 

[ShelbyZ]

But what it a forward and a defenseman become unavailable? Dress 3 goalies?

 

[Hammettf2b]

It was also the season where they had one of the worst teams in the league and because of covid and weird playoff structure, they were able to move through the postseason....

and if you change that to postseason, they only played 40 minutes together in 30 games, so there's that too. Regardless, that's why I said "apparently" because a couple people on here said they were.

ya, they might be able to do some things offensively but it might get scary defensively.

 

[GMR]

Pretty sure I never carried three goalies on the roster in a video game.

How dumb.

 

[ShanahanMan]

Lines changed up

Would like to see Raymond and Sprong switched.

 

[Ezekial]

But what it a forward and a defenseman become unavailable? Dress 3 goalies?

When I used to play NHL Hits I was a weapon skating it out with the goalie.

 

[raymond23]

3x3.4 over the off-season

#7 defenseman to start the season

Yikes

 

[norrisnick]

Maatta needs to pump up Ghost like he did Hronek. Then if some #1 PP specialist is dumpster'd around the league we have the perfect trading piece.

 

[Cake Eater]

Would like to see Raymond and Sprong switched.

You want Raymond on the 3rd line?

 

[Ulysses31]

why only carry 22? save cap?

 

[Gniwder]

You want Raymond on the 3rd line?

They're both kinda equal. I'd like to see Raz and Fabbri swapped, I think the end goal is to have Raz and Ray playing together and Fabbri and Sprong playing together. There's not a huge separation between Copp and Compher, Compher looks better with the puck and Copp looks better defensively. Career stats are awful similar.

why only carry 22? save cap?

Yes, for Patrick Kane

 

[Oddbob]

My favorite new narrative is that Yzerman is soft. He's keeping vets up because he doesn't want to hurt feelings. He can't make the tough roster decisions.

If you look at his handling of players all the way back to the Martin St. Louis situation, he hasn't exactly had a problem making tough calls.

Also, he waived Ericsson, Dekeyser and Abdelkader before their deals were over, so he has no problem waiving guys when they are clearly done.

why only carry 22? save cap?

Pretty sure Aston-Reese will come back up to be the extra forward and they probably waived him so they know whether he would clear or not. No sense in a youngster sitting out games, so my guess is he is the extra forward, who will press box it, so nothing to get worked up over.

 

[raymond23]

I am very excited for the season and can't wait to cheer on the Wings but I gotta be honest, the roster management feels a bit directionless and chaotic at the moment.

- Beginning the season with three goalies
- Your second best defenseman is in the AHL behind a plethora of 3rd pairing dmen (imo)
- Pigeonholed into running 11x7 because you can't scratch your brand new signing (Holl @ 3x3.4)

Seider/Raymond/Rasmussen are all due for a raise this coming offseason. We are okay for now but one more Chiarot-esque contract and we have to start talking about cap issues. We are spending ~25% of our cap over the next three years on Chiarot, Holl, Copp and Compher. I just look at our current roster/cap situation and I don't feel great about it.

Like why the hell is Edvinsson stuck behind Shayne Gostisbehere? What was the point of that signing? Why did we sign Holl to such a deal if he's barely got a spot on the roster? Objectively they are very questionable decisions, regardless of your beliefs in Yzerman

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

I absolutely hate the way the team is being constructed and ran as of right now. There’s just no excuse in my opinion for Berggren to not be on this roster, along with edvinsson. We have overpayed and gave out too much term to certain vets that either don’t make us better or actively make us worse and we are not progressing in our rebuild. We need to slowly be getting new guys into the lineup we can’t have an influx of 5 rookies next year and we have a massive logjam already. Blind optimism and faith is stupid honestly, the FO is being extremely questionable and if this was Holland doing this he’d be ran out of town. This shit sucks to be honest with you and doesn’t instill a ton of confidence in the future. I love our prospect pool but at this point their future development is coming into question.

Hypothetically let’s say this team does make the playoffs as an 8 seed, what does that do for us long term at ALL. We only have like 3 young guys even on the roster right now. It’s not getting young players valuable experience and it will be off the back of largely over the hill vets. This is not progressing for the future, this is being mediocre in the short term for no reason. Get the young players on the team, we can’t do this Holland shit again and waste years of our franchise.

 

[stillwater]

... and they haven't even played one game yet.

 

[Ulysses31]

Pretty sure Aston-Reese will come back up to be the extra forward and they probably waived him so they know whether he would clear or not. No sense in a youngster sitting out games, so my guess is he is the extra forward, who will press box it, so nothing to get worked up over.

thought yesterday reese would be 13th but 1) why send him down to griffins for 4 days just to recall him, could have kept him after waiving him and 2) lalonde said they will dress 11f 7d if injury.

SY playing 4d chess or something

 

[Oddbob]

I am very excited for the season and can't wait to cheer on the Wings but I gotta be honest, the roster management feels a bit directionless and chaotic at the moment.

- Beginning the season with three goalies
- Your second best defenseman is in the AHL behind a plethora of 3rd pairing dmen (imo)
- Pigeonholed into running 11x7 because you can't scratch your brand new signing (Holl @ 3x3.4)

Seider/Raymond/Rasmussen are all due for a raise this coming offseason. We are okay for now but one more Chiarot-esque contract and we have to start talking about cap issues. We are spending ~25% of our cap over the next three years on Chiarot, Holl, Copp and Compher. I just look at our current roster/cap situation and I don't feel great about it.

Like why the hell is Edvinsson stuck behind Shayne Gostisbehere? What was the point of that signing? Why did we sign Holl to such a deal if he's barely got a spot on the roster? Objectively they are very questionable decisions, regardless of your beliefs in Yzerman

Edvinsson is not our current 2nd best defender right now. Walman and Maatta are easily ahead of him right now. More skills doesn't mean better defender. Edvinsson has plenty to learn about positioning and being strong on guys near the net. He isn't currently a 20+ minute a night defender at the NHL level. Yzerman and the Wings want to be more competitive and want to win, and forcing a youngster into heavy minutes is not how you do it.

They aren't pigeonholed at all as very likely Holl will be the odd man out for game 1, thus he is being scratched.

thought yesterday reese would be 13th but 1) why send him down to griffins for 4 days just to recall him, could have kept him after waiving him and 2) lalonde said they will dress 11f 7d if injury.

SY playing 4d chess or something

By waiving him, they now know he can clear waivers if need be, which gives them flexibility on who the 13th forward will be. They don't want a youngster sitting in the press box everynight if they don't have to.

 

[Ulysses31]

Edvinsson is not our current 2nd best defender right now. Walman and Maatta are easily ahead of him right now. More skills doesn't mean better defender. Edvinsson has plenty to learn about positioning and being strong on guys near the net. He isn't currently a 20+ minute a night defender at the NHL level. Yzerman and the Wings want to be more competitive and want to win, and forcing a youngster into heavy minutes is not how you do it.

They aren't pigeonholed at all as very likely Holl will be the odd man out for game 1, thus he is being scratched.



By waiving him, they now know he can clear waivers if need be, which gives them flexibility on who the 13th forward will be. They don't want a youngster sitting in the press box everynight if they don't have to.

but why send him to gr, would have same flexibility if they didnt send him down after waiving him

 

[Cake Eater]

Maatta easily better then Edvinsson, good chuckle tonight.

 

[Oddbob]

but why send him to gr, would have same flexibility if they didnt send him down after waiving him

The GR thing is likely just a paper move right now. Like I don't think he is in GR right now. Whoever is the 13th forward is likely still in Detroit and that could true for any of the ones sent down. Season hasn't started yet, so a lot of things are just paper. No different than during the season, when they send waiver exempt guys to GR, eventhough the next time they play that player is still in the Wings lineup.

 

[Oddbob]

Maatta easily better then Edvinsson, good chuckle tonight.

Easily a better current NHL player than Ed is, not even close either. Ed was -7 in 9 games just last season while only playing 17 minutes a night and very sheltered minutes at that. Maatta on the other hand played so well that Hronek had his best season to date and logged more ice time and played better and pk'ed. Having more skills and better future potential doesn't make you a better NHL player right now. In short order, absolutely Ed could be better, but Ed is not a completed prospect yet, he still has lots to learn and only those looking only at the good things he or other young players do and the bad things that vets do can't see this. You are looking for good from Ed and bad from vets, so that is what you see.

When Seider came in, you could easily see a full time NHL player who can play 20+ everynight, with Ed, I currently see a player who can play everyday in the 15-17 minute range and will have many good nights and many bad nights.

If Ed was better, than he would be up with the team.

But you know better, so call up Steve and tell him to hire you, because the 23-34 Wings are in better shape with you in charge and not Lalonde.

 

[Henkka]

Yup, other teams are starting to have injuries and Wings can easily retain salary, and Wings also gets asset's back rather than giving Ghost or someone else away for free. Smart asset management.

I also see that it is Ghost who get's traded eventually.

Sceptical to see any selling trades before the trade deadline.

And I expect us to go playoffs, all this depth is needed if there's is there's no superstar trade available, quantity for quality.

 

[Henkka]

They're both kinda equal. I'd like to see Raz and Fabbri swapped, I think the end goal is to have Raz and Ray playing together and Fabbri and Sprong playing together. There's not a huge separation between Copp and Compher, Compher looks better with the puck and Copp looks better defensively.

Rasmussen behind the goal assists are perfect feed for Sprong. The lines are fine.