Speculation: Holl's next contract

[ACC1224]

How much will this polarizing player get this summer?
Will the Leafs pay it or let him walk?

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[LeafGrief]

Holl's ticket was punched when we traded for McCabe. Holl probably gets 3 x 2.5m on the market, and some middling team will be thrilled to have a guy who can play 20 minutes a night and not get completely caved. If Joel Edmundson gets interest, Holl certainly will.

 

[LeafSteel]

Really hoping the Leafs finally permanently fix 1RHD and stop using ill-fitting bandaids like we have.

Don’t hate Holl but his presence gets in the way of Liljegren, Timmins, and Niemala partly because Keefe can’t stop himself from being an idiot and overusing him at their expense, and for things that are over his skill set.

Someone else can pay him $3-4 million, and we can allocate those funds to improving our team and maybe finally bring in a real 1RHD, and shift Brodie back to LHD to cover Gio’s inevitable decline now that Sandin is gone.

Good luck Hollsy!

 

[ACC1224]

Holl's ticket was punched when we traded for McCabe. Holl probably gets 3 x 2.5m on the market, and some middling team will be thrilled to have a guy who can play 20 minutes a night and not get completely caved. If Joel Edmundson gets interest, Holl certainly will.

For 2.5 you don't think the Leafs would retain him?

 

[banks]

For 2.5 you don't think the Leafs would retain him?

I would hope they walk away at 2.5 million. Like @LeafGrief said, McCabe really makes Holl redundant.

It would be different if there was no one else internally that could fill a spot. But Toronto has a number of young guys who deserve playing time. Timmins and Niemala specifically.

If the team is lacking on the blueline by next TDL, then you can always add a Holl/Schenn clone for a 3rd rounder or less.

 

[aingefan]

I wouldn’t be one ounce of surprised if gets 4+ for at least four years.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Depends what happens in the post-season

 

[LeafGrief]

For 2.5 you don't think the Leafs would retain him?

They might, but I think they'd rather have the roster space for some different players. It's less of a cost issue and more of us having enough other defensemen already.

We have:
Rielly-Brodie
McCabe - Liljegren
Giordano - Timmins

plus any other depth signings like bringing back Schenn, Benn, a UFA, or a promising youngster. I love a defenseman who can play 20 minutes for 2.5m, but the right side is solid with Brodie and Lilly, and the team generally uses the 3rd pairing minutes as soft minutes to focus on development of a young player.

I'm happy as a clam if we do bring him back, I just don't expect it.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

They might, but I think they'd rather have the roster space for some different players. It's less of a cost issue and more of us having enough other defensemen already.

We have:
Rielly-Brodie
McCabe - Liljegren
Giordano - Timmins

plus any other depth signings like bringing back Schenn, Benn, a UFA, or a promising youngster. I love a defenseman who can play 20 minutes for 2.5m, but the right side is solid with Brodie and Lilly, and the team generally uses the 3rd pairing minutes as soft minutes to focus on development of a young player.

I'm happy as a clam if we do bring him back, I just don't expect it.

I can see Giordano being our #7 next year at age 40.

Rielly-Holl*
McCabe-Liljegren
Brodie-Timmins
/Giordano

An upgrade on Holl would be nice, but wouldn’t be surprised to see him still here.

 

[Buds17]

While the ceiling really shouldn't exceed 4M, I might also be surprised by a floor of less than 3M. Regardless of any amount, I still anticipate the team walking away due to having a right side D of Brodie, Liljegren and Timmins.

 

[Notsince67]

The question is what pair would Holl play at 31 years old go forward. Most can at least agree that he isn't getting better and the bottom 2 will have either Timmins, Lil, or Niemela coming up within 2 years. Are people content with Holl as a top 4 D. I sure ain't.

 

[Fogelhund]

Holl is likely to get between $3.-$4.5 mil on the open market.

Feel free to peruse the UFA list, and let me know who is actually an upgrade for a number we can afford.

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[JT AM da real deal]

He will get NHL min deal somewhere as a 6th/7th guy given he is a right handed shot .. if he was a lefty he would be out of league to Europe likely

 

[showtime8]

Have to think that he's between a Brett Kulak and Nick Leddy type contract.

I'm guessing someone will give him 4 years at $3.25mill per

 

[ToneDog]

Holl is likely to get between $3.-$4.5 mil on the open market.

Feel free to peruse the UFA list, and let me know who is actually an upgrade for a number we can afford.

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Slim pickings. Mayfield but he probably gets more than Holl.

 

[supermann_98]

I’d retain him on a 1 x $1m deal but I doubt he’d take that so adios muchacho

 

[Petrus]

I would prefer we give Timmins the opportunity. Timmins has to potential to be a good defenceman. He just needs development time and experience.

 

[Mess]

How much will this polarizing player get this summer?
Will the Leafs pay it or let him walk?

I don't believe our new GM next season will have any interest re-signing him with the intent of making the Leafs better.

Ever since our current GM chose to protect Holl at the expense of and the loss of Jared McCann to Seattle in the expansion draft it makes my blood boil.

I just want this whole nonsense behind us so the healing can begin, which begins with Holl's departure.

FWIW: Jared McCann since being lost because he foolishly wasn't protected has produced 58 goals and 100 points over the course of the last 2 seasons. That would look excellent in our line-up.

 

[Fogelhund]

Holl is likely to get between $3.-$4.5 mil on the open market.

Feel free to peruse the UFA list, and let me know who is actually an upgrade for a number we can afford.

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You say league min, I say minimum $3 mil. Closest person wins, buys the other beer.

I don't believe our new GM next season will have any interest re-signing him with the intent of making the Leafs better.

Ever since our current GM chose to protect Holl at the expense of and the loss of Jared McCann to Seattle in the expansion draft it makes my blood boil.

I just want this whole nonsense behind us so the healing can begin, which begins with Holl's departure.

FWIW: Jared McCann since being lost because he foolishly wasn't protected has produced 58 goals and 100 points over the course of the last 2 seasons. That would look excellent in our line-up.

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My condolences for the pain you've incurred. It must be hard dealing with this.

When Dubas and co. continue managing the team, next year, and well into the future, I wish the best in your attempt to cope.

 

[Mr_Fun]

Someone will likely pay him 3+ million. I don't see us signing him at that price for a variety of reasons.

 

[Fogelhund]

Slim pickings. Mayfield but he probably gets more than Holl.

It is pretty slim pickings. I think they'll give Timmins the shot to take the spot, and either make trades if necessary, or extend Schenn and run a platoon at the bottom.

 

[Larcos_Unal]

Dubas will give him 5 x $4m

 

[ACC1224]

Dubas will give him 5 x $4m

You should vote.

 

[ULF_55]

Regardless of the distaste for the player, Keefe appears to be extremely fond of him.

Dubas will not make the decision in isolation.

Again, it really depends on how much he's asking for.

NOTE: You didn't ask if we want him, but if the Leafs would retain him.

Unless something happened I'm unaware of, we don't get a vote on who is or is not signed/re-signed.

 

[Gary Nylund]