SPG
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I was going to respond post by post, but frankly just wanted to wish everyone a great summer and good health.
R
...and the same to you, Robb.
I was going to respond post by post, but frankly just wanted to wish everyone a great summer and good health.
R
I'm guessing that NYI offered the $6 Mil contract because Stastny had previously agreed to a $5.5 Mil offer from PHI, which I intended to match. As Hasnain has already posted, he had to withdraw his offer because he traded away the picks required for compensation.
I don't see my offer sheet for Grebeshkov listed here yet was the highest in the previous RFA thread. I had offered $3,013,000 x 4 years.
I probably missed this somewhere (in the multiple FA threads we have going), but who do I send 2nd round bids to? Hasnain? Matt? Ville?
I'm sorry but Ville is offline for a few days and I am not sure of his upcoming schedule. I would forward second round bids to all three of us, Ville, Richie and myself. The deadline will most likely be the middle of/ late next week
2nd round time is one week.. I'm out of battery on my laptop.. need to recharge it.. will be back with more information on when and how the offers should be submitted in 1-2 days..
hm, not sure, but is this the info everybody is looking for?
made some corrections. let me know if anyone has any other questions. deadline for offers will be at 23.59 EST Friday the 7th of August.
ps. Matthew K and Richie, is the date ok with you guys?
Here are the results from the HFNHL free agency. If you see any mistakes, please let me know asap.
Defensemen:
Dennis Grebeshkov 3,013m x 4years EDM
Brent Seabrook 3,012m x 4 years PHI
Denis Wideman 3,012m x 4 years TB
Ryan O'Byrne 1,5m x 3 years ATL
David Hale 990k x 1 year CAR
Jeff Woywitka 990k x 1 year CAR
Peter Harrold 990k x 1 year CAR
Kyle Cumisky 990k x 1 year CAR
Goalies:
Brian Elliott 1,506m x 2 years DAL
Marek Schwarz $993,999 x 4 years TB
Hannu Toivonen 990k x 1 year CAR
Josh Tjordman 990k x 1 year CAR
Flyers match offer to Brian Elliot and my understanding is that Seabrook has not signed the contract but just to be safe because I've been confused by this whole FA process this year (including deadline dates, etc...) is that the Flyers would match the offer if signed.
Claudio
Hasnain, I wasn't aware of that you had pulled out of the Stastny bidding. This means that Philly signs Stastny and you sign Zajac.
As far as the low RFA offers on Pominville and Armstrong go, neither player has signed at that money.
And, please, if you have a RFA going to the 2nd round, don't say that you will match the offer now, as the player hasn't signed any contract yet.
made some corrections. let me know if anyone has any other questions. deadline for offers will be at 23.59 EST Friday the 7th of August.
ps. Matthew K and Richie, is the date ok with you guys?
As a correction, it was Seabrook and Armstrong who were going to remain on the open market, not Pominville and Armstrong.
I'm a little irked about the NYI/Stastny situation. Like most people I'm guessing, regardless of the deadline, I took "all offers are final" to mean don't hit the send button unless you really mean it. It's one thing to send an email a short time later to make an administrative correction to an offer. However, it's a completely different thing to conduct a trade knowing you have tabled a high-end offer sheet.
Does NYI still possess the compensation to bid on Stastny? Obviously, Pominville is my RFA, so I'm not entirely an unaffected party. However, I'm not the first one to bring this up, either. I have to admit that the issue, in my opinion, is further complicated by the fact that Hasnain posted the rules for free agency. With authority comes the responsibility to hold yourself to higher standards than those around you. That's my overly preachy way of saying you should've known better, Hasnain.
Methinks this warrants a brief discussion amongst the Admin Team.
This doesn't necessarily relate directly to the Stastny case, but a hypothetical question...
If I sent my offers in on the first day we were able to do so and wanted to change a player or two, or dollar amount or two, would I not be allowed to submit a new list before the deadline? Yes offers had been sent in, but nothing had been applied to any players yet so are they final?
I would have no problem with that -- the same is done with draft lists and the like as people get more information, or second-guess themselves. You should theoretically be able to modify whatever you like, up to the deadline, but after the deadline you are bound by your most recent instructions, and if those instructions include offers you're not entitled to make, then a penalty may be applied.
So I'm clear, this is the deadline for second-round bidding on those players that have gone to a short list, right? We're not asking people to submit bids yet for the second phase of free-agency when people try and sign the leftovers?
As a correction, it was Seabrook and Armstrong who were going to remain on the open market, not Pominville and Armstrong.
I'm a little irked about the NYI/Stastny situation. Like most people I'm guessing, regardless of the deadline, I took "all offers are final" to mean don't hit the send button unless you really mean it. It's one thing to send an email a short time later to make an administrative correction to an offer. However, it's a completely different thing to conduct a trade knowing you have tabled a high-end offer sheet.
Does NYI still possess the compensation to bid on Stastny? Obviously, Pominville is my RFA, so I'm not entirely an unaffected party. However, I'm not the first one to bring this up, either. I have to admit that the issue, in my opinion, is further complicated by the fact that Hasnain posted the rules for free agency. With authority comes the responsibility to hold yourself to higher standards than those around you. That's my overly preachy way of saying you should've known better, Hasnain.
Methinks this warrants a brief discussion amongst the Admin Team.
Matt, I had to submit my offers a week before anyone else and I retracted the offer on Tuesday ...5 days before the deadline. I can understand that if it was a case of me raising my offer since i had seen other offers...but this is not the case here...and I got the approval from Reggie as well.
Stasny in this case was going for 2nd round bidding ...so I have every right now to pull my offer of the table given that he did not accept any offers.
I completely disagree with that statement...
...I am, however, ok with you being allowed to pull the offer because of a combination of you having to submit your offers early, the trade being made before the 1st round deadline, and you were given Reggie's OK.
Can't we alter our bid for 2nd round bidding...either pull the offer off the table or increase the bid. How can we penalize a team when the offer was not accepted by the player. Also, if the team did not want to match the offer than I have other ways of negotiating with the team that is mutually accepted by both parties.