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HFNHL 2005 Draft Reviews
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HFNHL Hawks 2005 draft evaluation
HFNHL Hawks 2005 draft evaluation:
1st #21 - Matt Niskanen
2nd #40 - Jeff Frazee
3rd #81 - Vladimir Karpov
4th #101 - Nicholas Drazenovic
5th #142 - Paul Kurceba
6th #166 - Timothy Kunes
6th #187 - Matt D'Agostini
7th #213 - Riley Merkley
7th #226 - Jon Rheault
At the time of the draft the Hawks were weak in terms of prospects on defense and in goal. With Ian White and Duncan Keith acquired in trades in previous years and Mike Green drafted in 2004 GM Lewis continued his rebuild from the back strategy by drafting another defenseman and a goalie in the first 2 rounds.
1st Round, 21st overall – Matt Niskanen
NHL Draft: 1st round, 28th overall - Dallas Stars
Status: NHL player
NHL stats: 232 GP 16 G 60 A 76 PTS - 4 +/-
Notes: 3 NHL seasons under his belt at the age of 23. Offensive defenseman. Needs to improve defense consistency.
Grade: B
2nd Round, 40th overall – Jeff Frazee
NHL Draft: 2nd round, 38th overall - New Jersey
Status: AHL Goalie / NHL prospect
NHL GAMES: 0
Grade C
Future heir apparent to Broduer? Had a fantastic 2008/09 season but had a set back in 09/10 due to a freak injury in the pre-season.
3rd Round, 81st overall – Vladimir Karpov
NHL Draft: no idea.
Status: KHL player
NHL stats: 0
Grade: Screwed the pooch on this one
Notes: Next HFNHL player drafted was Steve Downie. need I say more
6th Round, 187th overall – Matt D'Agostini
NHL Draft: 6th round, 190th overall - Montreal Canadiens
Status: NHL player
NHL stats: 101 GP 14 G 11 A 25 PTS - 32 +/-
Very inconsistent in NHL. Had success in AHL. Probably ends up a 3rd or 4th line player / injury call up.
Grade C
The rest aren't really worth writing about.
Just had to get this thread back on track
HFNHL Hawks 2005 draft evaluation:
1st #21 - Matt Niskanen
2nd #40 - Jeff Frazee
3rd #81 - Vladimir Karpov
4th #101 - Nicholas Drazenovic
5th #142 - Paul Kurceba
6th #166 - Timothy Kunes
6th #187 - Matt D'Agostini
7th #213 - Riley Merkley
7th #226 - Jon Rheault
At the time of the draft the Hawks were weak in terms of prospects on defense and in goal. With Ian White and Duncan Keith acquired in trades in previous years and Mike Green drafted in 2004 GM Lewis continued his rebuild from the back strategy by drafting another defenseman and a goalie in the first 2 rounds.
1st Round, 21st overall – Matt Niskanen
NHL Draft: 1st round, 28th overall - Dallas Stars
Status: NHL player
NHL stats: 232 GP 16 G 60 A 76 PTS - 4 +/-
Notes: 3 NHL seasons under his belt at the age of 23. Offensive defenseman. Needs to improve defense consistency.
Grade: B
2nd Round, 40th overall – Jeff Frazee
NHL Draft: 2nd round, 38th overall - New Jersey
Status: AHL Goalie / NHL prospect
NHL GAMES: 0
Grade C
Future heir apparent to Broduer? Had a fantastic 2008/09 season but had a set back in 09/10 due to a freak injury in the pre-season.
3rd Round, 81st overall – Vladimir Karpov
NHL Draft: no idea.
Status: KHL player
NHL stats: 0
Grade: Screwed the pooch on this one
Notes: Next HFNHL player drafted was Steve Downie. need I say more
6th Round, 187th overall – Matt D'Agostini
NHL Draft: 6th round, 190th overall - Montreal Canadiens
Status: NHL player
NHL stats: 101 GP 14 G 11 A 25 PTS - 32 +/-
Very inconsistent in NHL. Had success in AHL. Probably ends up a 3rd or 4th line player / injury call up.
Grade C
The rest aren't really worth writing about.
Just had to get this thread back on track
Anaheim Ducks 2005 Draft Recap
Way late to the party...
1st Round, 2nd Overall - Jack Johnson, D
NHL: Went 3rd overall to Carolina. Has put up 58 points in 200 NHL games. A top-three defenseman on his way up.
Notes: With Sidney Crosby being the obvious #1 pick, the #2 pick was a little less so. Most mock drafts had Johnson as being the #2 pick in the draft, but Ducks' GM Matt Gledhill was known to be drawn to hometown boy Bobby Ryan. In the end, however, the Ducks went with Johnson, and while they had to wait a little longer than expected, the dividends are starting to pay off. Prospect hounds became a bit impatient with Johnson's development, first because he spurned the NHL Hurricanes during their Cup run to stay at Michigan, and later because his star became somewhat obscured behind Drew Doughty's meteoric rise. This season, though, Johnson really started to come into his own. His maturation as a defenseman was best evidenced during the Olympics, when he was relied upon in all situations, and formed a punishing physical pairing with Brooks Orpik. Johnson made the US Olympic team, in part, because of his perception as a "home-run hitter". His career arc will likely be defined by this characteristic, as well as his ability to temper it.
2nd Round, 59th Overall - Pier-Olivier Pelletier, G
NHL: Went 59th overall to Phoenix. No NHL team currently holds his rights.
Notes: Complete bust. When Brian Boucher failed to pan out as a #1 goaltender, the Ducks struggled for years to fill their "goaltender of the future" role. In this draft, after Price, Rask, and Pavelec, there really was no consensus #4 goaltender. The Ducks entertained the notion of trading up to take Rask. However, wary of taking goalies in the first round, the team instead opted to stand pat and select Pelletier, who never got signed by Phoenix, and is now league-hopping to wherever anyone needs a fill-in goalie.
3rd Round, 62nd Overall - Teemu Laakso, D
NHL: Went 78th overall to Nashville. Appeared in 7 games (0 points) at the start of the season for the Preds.
Notes: Despite a somewhat checkered injury history, Laakso is still very willing to do the thing which first led the Ducks to draft him: Lay the body. Laakso spent 4 seasons honing his game in the SM-Liiga before coming to the AHL, where he adjusted seamlessly. Initially, the Ducks thought Laakso had a bit more two-way upside to his game, perhaps because he was the best defenseman on a few rather weak Finnish bluelines at the WJCs. Now, Laakso appears to be more of a "solid first pass" guy. Laakso is now property of the Carolina Hurricanes, as he was traded close to the deadline in a deal for Jay McClement.
5th Round, 123rd Overall - Perttu Lindgren, C
NHL: Went 75th overall to Dallas. Appeared in 1 game this season for the Stars.
Notes: The year after he got drafted, Lindgren's production shot through the roof, as he put up 37 points in 51 games for Ilves. After that, Lindgren appeared to be a prospect treading water. His numbers in the SM-Liiga went backwards a bit, then he came over to the AHL where he had a solid 2007-08 season. 2008-09 saw Lindgren back in Finland, which wasn't so much a step backwards (Lindgren was fulfilling a service requirement, I believe) as it was a lost year of development. Then came the 2009-10 season, which saw Lindgren back in the AHL, where he finished 3rd on his team in scoring in both the regular season and the playoffs, and played well enough to earn himself a brief NHL call-up. Lindgren's MO hasn't changed - he's still a slick playmaking center (led the Texas Stars in assists). More importantly, he's back on the radar.
6th Round, 185th Overall - J.D. Watt, RW
NHL: Went 111th overall to the Flames.
Notes: Watt is still in the Flames system, where he spent the entire season with the new Abbotsford franchise in the AHL. There he racked up 13 points and a hefty 267 penalty minutes in 70 games. Watt is without a doubt trying to fashion his game in the mold of the modern superpest. To that end, he does have a bit of touch, and certainly the willingness to go after people. However, questions about his skating could keep him from ever serving in a 4th line role at the NHL level.
7th Round, 194th Overall - Kevin Lalande, G
NHL: Went 128th to the Flames. Now in the Blue Jackets' system.
Notes: Nothing has ever come easy for Kevin Lalande, and nothing likely ever will. He was never really highly regarded during his time in Belleville, yet he put up good numbers. He did his time in the ECHL, where he put up even better numbers. Then, when his AHL call-up finally came, he put the numbers up, but encountered a sizable roadblock in Quad City in the form of Leland Irving. That earned Lalande a ticket out of the Flames organization to the Syracuse Crunch, Columbus' AHL affiliate. Lalande's reaction? Put up good enough numbers to steal fellow prospect Dan LaCosta's starting job. Now, with one full season as an AHL starter, Lalande at least appears to have the chops to get a sniff of an NHL backup job at some point. Certainly, Lalande's done a good enough job of bucking the odds thus far...
Summary: Right after the NHL Draft, I was probably patting myself on the back because Lalande, Watt, and Lindgren all went much higher than I drafted them. Five years later, the 2005 Draft was a solid, if unspectacular, draft for the Ducks. Johnson's development was frustrating at times, but young defensemen are funny creatures, and I think it's clear now that he's the best out of that year's crop. Laakso could step into a full-time 5/6 role as soon as this coming season. Lindgren and Lalande are still legitimate NHL prospects. Watt's a fringe prospect, and Pelletier's a bust. Add all of that up, and I guess you've got yourself a B-.
Way late to the party...
1st Round, 2nd Overall - Jack Johnson, D
NHL: Went 3rd overall to Carolina. Has put up 58 points in 200 NHL games. A top-three defenseman on his way up.
Notes: With Sidney Crosby being the obvious #1 pick, the #2 pick was a little less so. Most mock drafts had Johnson as being the #2 pick in the draft, but Ducks' GM Matt Gledhill was known to be drawn to hometown boy Bobby Ryan. In the end, however, the Ducks went with Johnson, and while they had to wait a little longer than expected, the dividends are starting to pay off. Prospect hounds became a bit impatient with Johnson's development, first because he spurned the NHL Hurricanes during their Cup run to stay at Michigan, and later because his star became somewhat obscured behind Drew Doughty's meteoric rise. This season, though, Johnson really started to come into his own. His maturation as a defenseman was best evidenced during the Olympics, when he was relied upon in all situations, and formed a punishing physical pairing with Brooks Orpik. Johnson made the US Olympic team, in part, because of his perception as a "home-run hitter". His career arc will likely be defined by this characteristic, as well as his ability to temper it.
2nd Round, 59th Overall - Pier-Olivier Pelletier, G
NHL: Went 59th overall to Phoenix. No NHL team currently holds his rights.
Notes: Complete bust. When Brian Boucher failed to pan out as a #1 goaltender, the Ducks struggled for years to fill their "goaltender of the future" role. In this draft, after Price, Rask, and Pavelec, there really was no consensus #4 goaltender. The Ducks entertained the notion of trading up to take Rask. However, wary of taking goalies in the first round, the team instead opted to stand pat and select Pelletier, who never got signed by Phoenix, and is now league-hopping to wherever anyone needs a fill-in goalie.
3rd Round, 62nd Overall - Teemu Laakso, D
NHL: Went 78th overall to Nashville. Appeared in 7 games (0 points) at the start of the season for the Preds.
Notes: Despite a somewhat checkered injury history, Laakso is still very willing to do the thing which first led the Ducks to draft him: Lay the body. Laakso spent 4 seasons honing his game in the SM-Liiga before coming to the AHL, where he adjusted seamlessly. Initially, the Ducks thought Laakso had a bit more two-way upside to his game, perhaps because he was the best defenseman on a few rather weak Finnish bluelines at the WJCs. Now, Laakso appears to be more of a "solid first pass" guy. Laakso is now property of the Carolina Hurricanes, as he was traded close to the deadline in a deal for Jay McClement.
5th Round, 123rd Overall - Perttu Lindgren, C
NHL: Went 75th overall to Dallas. Appeared in 1 game this season for the Stars.
Notes: The year after he got drafted, Lindgren's production shot through the roof, as he put up 37 points in 51 games for Ilves. After that, Lindgren appeared to be a prospect treading water. His numbers in the SM-Liiga went backwards a bit, then he came over to the AHL where he had a solid 2007-08 season. 2008-09 saw Lindgren back in Finland, which wasn't so much a step backwards (Lindgren was fulfilling a service requirement, I believe) as it was a lost year of development. Then came the 2009-10 season, which saw Lindgren back in the AHL, where he finished 3rd on his team in scoring in both the regular season and the playoffs, and played well enough to earn himself a brief NHL call-up. Lindgren's MO hasn't changed - he's still a slick playmaking center (led the Texas Stars in assists). More importantly, he's back on the radar.
6th Round, 185th Overall - J.D. Watt, RW
NHL: Went 111th overall to the Flames.
Notes: Watt is still in the Flames system, where he spent the entire season with the new Abbotsford franchise in the AHL. There he racked up 13 points and a hefty 267 penalty minutes in 70 games. Watt is without a doubt trying to fashion his game in the mold of the modern superpest. To that end, he does have a bit of touch, and certainly the willingness to go after people. However, questions about his skating could keep him from ever serving in a 4th line role at the NHL level.
7th Round, 194th Overall - Kevin Lalande, G
NHL: Went 128th to the Flames. Now in the Blue Jackets' system.
Notes: Nothing has ever come easy for Kevin Lalande, and nothing likely ever will. He was never really highly regarded during his time in Belleville, yet he put up good numbers. He did his time in the ECHL, where he put up even better numbers. Then, when his AHL call-up finally came, he put the numbers up, but encountered a sizable roadblock in Quad City in the form of Leland Irving. That earned Lalande a ticket out of the Flames organization to the Syracuse Crunch, Columbus' AHL affiliate. Lalande's reaction? Put up good enough numbers to steal fellow prospect Dan LaCosta's starting job. Now, with one full season as an AHL starter, Lalande at least appears to have the chops to get a sniff of an NHL backup job at some point. Certainly, Lalande's done a good enough job of bucking the odds thus far...
Summary: Right after the NHL Draft, I was probably patting myself on the back because Lalande, Watt, and Lindgren all went much higher than I drafted them. Five years later, the 2005 Draft was a solid, if unspectacular, draft for the Ducks. Johnson's development was frustrating at times, but young defensemen are funny creatures, and I think it's clear now that he's the best out of that year's crop. Laakso could step into a full-time 5/6 role as soon as this coming season. Lindgren and Lalande are still legitimate NHL prospects. Watt's a fringe prospect, and Pelletier's a bust. Add all of that up, and I guess you've got yourself a B-.
BOS 05 - 2 for 6 in NHL.
IN THE NHL:
HFNHL BOS 1st round: 5th overall: Benoit Pouliot. NHL: 1st round: MIN. 4th overall. Playing in the NHL - MTL. Was looking grim for a while in MIN. Then he went to MTL and got his proverbial $#@! together and playing much better. Traded him to SJ for Jarret Stoll in 08.
HFNHL BOS 3rd round: 61st overall: Dustin Kohn. NHL: 2nd round: NYI. 46th overall. Playing in the NHL - NYI. Depth D at this point in his first year called up to the NHL, but has some offensive potenital. Needs work in his own end. Needs more icetime to get it together. RFA this summer.
MAYBE:
HFNHL BOS 7th round (comp ): 225 overall: Josh Beaulieu NHL: 5th round: PHI 152nd overall. Signed and playing for the Phantoms although contract expires this summer so needs to be resigned. Lunch-box brigade type player. Might make the squad although has never had a call-up.
NO DICE:
HFNHL BOS 5th round: 122nd overall: Kristofer Westblom NHL: 3rd round: MIN. 65th overall. "Where are they now files."
HFNHL NAS 5th round: 129th overall: Dalyn Flatt. NHL: 3rd round: NYR 77th overall. "Where are they now files."
HFNHL BOS 7th round: 193rd overall: Tim Crowder NHL: 5th round: PIT 126th overall. Never signed after college. Now playing for the Grizzlies in the ECHL.
IN THE NHL:
HFNHL BOS 1st round: 5th overall: Benoit Pouliot. NHL: 1st round: MIN. 4th overall. Playing in the NHL - MTL. Was looking grim for a while in MIN. Then he went to MTL and got his proverbial $#@! together and playing much better. Traded him to SJ for Jarret Stoll in 08.
HFNHL BOS 3rd round: 61st overall: Dustin Kohn. NHL: 2nd round: NYI. 46th overall. Playing in the NHL - NYI. Depth D at this point in his first year called up to the NHL, but has some offensive potenital. Needs work in his own end. Needs more icetime to get it together. RFA this summer.
MAYBE:
HFNHL BOS 7th round (comp ): 225 overall: Josh Beaulieu NHL: 5th round: PHI 152nd overall. Signed and playing for the Phantoms although contract expires this summer so needs to be resigned. Lunch-box brigade type player. Might make the squad although has never had a call-up.
NO DICE:
HFNHL BOS 5th round: 122nd overall: Kristofer Westblom NHL: 3rd round: MIN. 65th overall. "Where are they now files."
HFNHL NAS 5th round: 129th overall: Dalyn Flatt. NHL: 3rd round: NYR 77th overall. "Where are they now files."
HFNHL BOS 7th round: 193rd overall: Tim Crowder NHL: 5th round: PIT 126th overall. Never signed after college. Now playing for the Grizzlies in the ECHL.
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He's playing at my alma mater now actually, Acadia. Was pretty good last year.
Acadia - nice. Perhaps that alumni spirit of yours would like to take him off my prospect list for a late pick....
