HFBoards Top 32 Wingers - #3

NHL's 3rd best winger


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Aashir Mallik

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What has Marner done to warrant being over Huberdeau, Panarin, Gaudreau, even Tkachuk or Ovechkin?
Outproduced almost everyone you listed over the past 3 years

Marner: 186GP - 71G - 160A - 231P(31-71-102)
Huberdeau: 204GP - 73G - 181A - 254P(29-73-102)
Panarin: 189GP - 71G - 178A - 249P(31-77-108)
Gaudreau: 208GP - 77G - 145A - 222P(30-57-87)
Tkachuk: 207GP - 81G - 127A - 208P(32-50-83)
Ovechkin: 190GP - 122G - 77A - 199P(53-33-86)


Huberdeau and Panarin are the only ones who are close, Panarin being ahead. Looking at playoffs between the three closest regular season players

Marner - 19GP - 2G - 14A - 16P (8-60-68)
Huberdeau - 20GP - 4G - 14A - 18P (16-57-73)
Panarin - 23GP - 7G - 11A - 18P (25-39-64)

All three struggle to maintain their scoring and fall off a large margin

if you want to argue Huberdeau or Panarin then fine they have the argument, but the others are no where near Marner
 
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Regal

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Marchand has produced roughly as much as anyone left the past few years, is much better defensively than anyone close as a scorer, and actually produces in the playoffs. I think he’s being slept on for having “only” 80 in 70 this year.
 

leafsfan5

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Outproduced almost everyone you listed over the past 3 years

Marner: 186GP - 71G - 160A - 231P(31-71-102)
Huberdeau: 204GP - 73G - 181A - 254P(29-73-102)
Panarin: 189GP - 71G - 178A - 249P(31-77-108)
Gaudreau: 208GP - 77G - 145A - 222P(30-57-87)
Tkachuk: 207GP - 81G - 127A - 208P(32-50-83)
Ovechkin: 190GP - 122G - 77A - 199P(53-33-86)


Huberdeau and Panarin are the only ones who are close, Panarin being ahead. Looking at playoffs between the three closest regular season players

Marner - 19GP - 2G - 14A - 16P (8-60-68)
Huberdeau - 20GP - 4G - 14A - 18P (16-57-73)
Panarin - 23GP - 7G - 11A - 18P (25-39-64)

All three struggle to maintain their scoring and fall off a large margin

if you want to argue Huberdeau or Panarin then fine they have the argument, but the others are no where near Marner
People also forget he provides a great 2-way game for the level he produces at. Marner is an elite PKer with excellent defensive abilites

Combine that with his comparable production and he's a good vote here
 
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wetcoast

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People also forget he provides a great 2-way game for the level he produces at. Marner is an elite PKer with excellent defensive abilites

Combine that with his comparable production and he's a good vote here

Fair enough but Marchand might produce slightly less and bring more 2 way play and grit and playoffs he still excels.

In these polls I'm taking the guy who I think would be the best player in a one year league throw everyone in the pool redraft and Marchand is the guy I want here if I want to build a SC winner, Marner and several others are better left for fantasy leagues.
 

tsujimoto74

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What has Marner done to warrant being over Huberdeau, Panarin, Gaudreau, even Tkachuk or Ovechkin?

Gaudreau doesn't have the consistency. He's capable of producing like an elite player, but he's only done so twice (3x if you count just barely topping PPG in 17-18). I'd easily put Marner ahead of him.
 

leafsfan5

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Fair enough but Marchand might produce slightly less and bring more 2 way play and grit and playoffs he still excels.

In these polls I'm taking the guy who I think would be the best player in a one year league throw everyone in the pool redraft and Marchand is the guy I want here if I want to build a SC winner, Marner and several others are better left for fantasy leagues.
I wouldn't have a problem with someone voting Marchand here, he's a great overall winger

My reasoning for going with Mitch is that he was the better player this past year and Marchand is now coming off of double hip surgery at the age of 34
 

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Gaudreau doesn't have the consistency. He's capable of producing like an elite player, but he's only done so twice (3x if you count just barely topping PPG in 17-18). I'd easily put Marner ahead of him.
Give Marner Gaudreau's linemates in those down years and he'd struggle at least as much.
 

Mrb1p

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Outproduced almost everyone you listed over the past 3 years

Marner: 186GP - 71G - 160A - 231P(31-71-102)
Huberdeau: 204GP - 73G - 181A - 254P(29-73-102)
Panarin: 189GP - 71G - 178A - 249P(31-77-108)
Gaudreau: 208GP - 77G - 145A - 222P(30-57-87)
Tkachuk: 207GP - 81G - 127A - 208P(32-50-83)
Ovechkin: 190GP - 122G - 77A - 199P(53-33-86)


Huberdeau and Panarin are the only ones who are close, Panarin being ahead. Looking at playoffs between the three closest regular season players

Marner - 19GP - 2G - 14A - 16P (8-60-68)
Huberdeau - 20GP - 4G - 14A - 18P (16-57-73)
Panarin - 23GP - 7G - 11A - 18P (25-39-64)

All three struggle to maintain their scoring and fall off a large margin

if you want to argue Huberdeau or Panarin then fine they have the argument, but the others are no where near Marner
Patrick Kane >
 
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wetcoast

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So.... No.

Technically sure but if one where to ask which players would you predict to score 100 points this upcoming season (of course everyone is assuming health) Marner would be one of the handful of players chosen and Johnny hockey most likely would be picked after him.

It's a weak argument and the poster who brought it knows enough about hockey to know better as well.
 
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socko

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I think if they were younger, Kane and Marchand would easily be doing better in this poll. And if you go back even farther in time, then Ovechkin would obliterate the competition. But father time is real, and this is a pretty difficult decision at this point. And I think the poll shows that. I decided to change my vote to Marchand as he really hasn't fallen off that much yet that I've seen. But he's at that point where he's likely to see a decline.
 

Mrb1p

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I think if they were younger, Kane and Marchand would easily be doing better in this poll. And if you go back even farther in time, then Ovechkin would obliterate the competition. But father time is real, and this is a pretty difficult decision at this point. And I think the poll shows that. I decided to change my vote to Marchand as he really hasn't fallen off that much yet that I've seen. But he's at that point where he's likely to see a decline.
But this is right now, not a whos better in 12, 24 or what ever amount of months you want.

As of today, these two guys still rank at the very top.
 
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