HFBoards Top 32 Defensemen - #9

[LT]

Rank	Player	Votes	Team	GP	G	A	P
1	Cale Makar	85/111 (77%)	Colorado Avalanche	77	28	58	86
2	Victor Hedman	196/269 (73%)	Tampa Bay Lightning	82	20	65	85
3	Roman Josi	121/197 (61%)	Nashville Predators	80	23	73	96
4	Adam Fox	106/175 (61%)	New York Rangers	78	11	63	74
5	Charlie McAvoy	142/224 (63%)	Boston Bruins	78	10	46	56
6	Miro Heiskanen	79/212 (37%)	Dallas Stars	70	5	31	36
7	Aaron Ekblad	62/156 (40%)	Florida Panthers	61	15	42	57
8	Jaccob Slavin	89/160 (56%)	Carolina Hurricanes	79	4	38	42
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To add:
Mackenzie Weegar
Jonas Brodin
Jared Spurgeon
Alex Pietrangelo
Zach Werenski
Dougie Hamilton
John Klingberg
Jakob Chychrun
Brent Burns
Erik Karlsson
Adam Pelech
Noah Dobson

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[wintersej]

I think Doughty showed he still had it last year and that his poor previous few years were about having a tough time with drive on bad teams.

Chabot also an option. I think he gets undersold being on a bad team for so long.

 

[Deadly Dogma]

Am I supposed to pick thinking like a keeper league or is it just for 1 season? That makes a huge difference on how I would pick

 

[Ace of Hades]

Hughes, Doughty and then Letang in that order.

 

[wintersej]

Am I supposed to pick thinking like a keeper league or is it just for 1 season? That makes a huge difference on how I would pick

I have been viewing it as right now for next season only.

 

[Lavar Ball]

Am I supposed to pick thinking like a keeper league or is it just for 1 season? That makes a huge difference on how I would pick

Just next season, a guy like Seider would be long gone otherwise

Letang here

 

[Deadly Dogma]

Just next season, a guy like Seider would be long gone otherwise

Letang here

I have been viewing it as right now for next season only.

ok thanks guys

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Serious question as I do not get to see Doughty much anymore, but is still really a top 10 dman in the league or this is more of a reputation vote? I feel like I always read people shitting on him during the season

 

[Regal]

Serious question as I do not get to see Doughty much anymore, but is still really a top 10 dman in the league or this is more of a reputation vote? I feel like I always read people shitting on him during the season

I think he played like one this season, albeit for a half season, and given his age, and previous track record, I think the idea that he was phoning it in while LA was bad was pretty accurate. I think he can still bring it when it matters.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Letang, until proven otherwise
Hughes
Chabot

 

[lionsDen]

I think towes as a homer vote

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

Why is Seth Jones even an option?

 

[Buck Naked]

Weegar's last two season's been better than probably half the remaining players to vote for. How come he's not an option yet?

Voted Letang.

 

[vancityluongo]

genuinely think it is hughes here, although the lack of love/votes for dahlin is interesting - would have him in the next spot or two, i think. even for just next season, 35 year old kris letang and doughty (who people were calling washed before last season) are after those guys, although still inside the top-12.

for guys to add, i think weegar and dobson are good candidates

 

[Siludin]

Hughes is already 4 spots too low.

 

[Canucks LB]

Hughes easily here

 

[wintersej]

Why is Seth Jones even an option?

There is certainly a camp that thinks Jones didn’t start sucking but that he isn’t really a guy that drives possession and has been on a really really bad team.

 

[wintersej]

Hughes had a lot of assists QBing a PP that was closer to 20th in the league than to 1st.

He scored ZERO goals for that power play. A lot of touches and points on PP that while 9th OA, was in the fat middle of power plays within a couple of percent of each other.

Is getting a lot of touches on an average power play compelling to folks?

At even strength he had fewer points than guys like Theodore, Forsling, Skjei or Faulk.

Defensively he is a good puckmover with some size limitations.

I dunno. I would expect more out of a top 10 defenseman.

 

[banks]

My next 3: Letang, Doughty, Hughes.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

Hughes had a lot of assists QBing a PP that was closer to 20th in the league than to 1st.

He scored ZERO goals for that power play. A lot of touches and points on PP that while 9th OA, was in the fat middle of power plays within a couple of percent of each other.

Is getting a lot of touches on an average power play compelling to folks?

At even strength he had fewer points than guys like Theodore, Forsling, Skjei or Faulk.

Defensively he is a good puckmover with some size limitations.

I dunno. I would expect more out of a top 10 defenseman.

Ya I enjoy watching Hughes, and therefor want him to be successful, but I don't think he has anywhere near the impact on the outcome of a game that Doughty, Letang, Chabot have.

But hey I have McAvoy 2nd or 3rd, too, so....

 

[wintersej]

Ya I enjoy watching Hughes, and therefor want him to be successful, but I don't think he has anywhere near the impact on the outcome of a game that Doughty, Letang, Chabot have.

But hey I have McAvoy 2nd or 3rd, too, so....

Heck, what makes Hughes better than Rielly?

In fairness, I think we are in splitting hairs mode for a while and are in a big tier of "the non-elite #1D"

 

[amnesiac]

Hughes

Add Pietrangelo, Werenski, Hamilton

 

[Ace of Hades]

Hughes had a lot of assists QBing a PP that was closer to 20th in the league than to 1st.

He scored ZERO goals for that power play. A lot of touches and points on PP that while 9th OA, was in the fat middle of power plays within a couple of percent of each other.

Is getting a lot of touches on an average power play compelling to folks?

At even strength he had fewer points than guys like Theodore, Forsling, Skjei or Faulk.

Defensively he is a good puckmover with some size limitations.

I dunno. I would expect more out of a top 10 defenseman.

Go look at who his even strength partner is and who he has to carry every night.

He also had some shitty luck offensively, could've garnered more ES points if not for the dozens of his shots hitting posts.

Stop underselling what he did on the powerplay. The reason why it had any level of success was due to him and Miller.

Saying he doesn't have the impact of Chabot and Letang is just being ignorant.

He definitely belongs in the top 10.

 

[Ace of Hades]

Heck, what makes Hughes better than Rielly?

In fairness, I think we are in splitting hairs mode for a while and are in a big tier of "the non-elite #1D"

@Breakers
Seems you have been summoned.

 

[wintersej]

Go look at who his even strength partner is and who he has to carry every night.

He also had some shitty luck offensively, could've garnered more ES points if not for the dozens of his shots hitting posts.

Stop underselling what he did on the powerplay. The reason why it had any level of success was due to him and Miller.

Saying he doesn't have the impact of Chabot and Letang is just being ignorant.

He definitely belongs in the top 10.

Miller and Hughes accounted for a lot of the points on an average powerplay. I'm not sure this is the argument in your favor you think it is.

Oh I didn't realize that Hughes was the only D on the list that had a subpar partner! My bad!