GDT: Hawks @ Vegas 9pm ESPN + 4-16-24

[Pez68]

That goal was on Nazar. Rookie mistake. He will learn. I like the kid. And it was a beautiful shot.

Equal blame to be shared by Nazar, Jones, and Mrazek. Nazar needs to take a different approach to that puck on the wall, Jones needs to close that angle off much better and not let him move towards the middle, and Mrazek just needs to stay on his feet there and let the puck hit him.

 

[BHawk21]

Nazar does shit like this and I get up out of my seat

Its wild all of these kids are coming in with that drag release.

 

[giza]

I think Bedard is tired and probably tired of losing. He's never had to experience a NHL season and is probably operating on fumes......"the future looks bright, got to wear shades".....bring on the Lindstrom sweepstakes!

 

[scorehawks]

I think Bedard is tired and probably tired of losing. He's never had to experience a NHL season and is probably operating on fumes......"the future looks bright, got to wear shades".....bring on the Lindstrom sweepstakes!

Then again he's...18! Kid lives to play hockey. Should have energy to burn.

 

[Pez68]

Then again he's...18! Kid lives to play hockey. Should have energy to burn.

I mean, that's not how conditioning works, but OK. lol

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Foligno was a healthy scratch a few games back. I'm sure he's playing through injury.

 

[cassac]

Foligno was a healthy scratch a few games back. I'm sure he's playing through injury.

It was reported that he was scratched for a personel (family) reason.

 

[hawksfan50]

Hey even superstars make mistakes
. Butvon good teams their team-mates cover for them and/or the goalie baiks out the mistake or gaffe..

Jones is not consistent enough with defensive brilliance to be a very good cover up guy for others' mistakes and when $9.5 errs himself usually nobody can bail him out...even Vlasic who was excellent the first half of tge season eventually ground down by his pairing with $9.5...

So not going to flail in Nazar for 1 boo-boo..but at least he tries in the d-zobe too though not always successfully...Bedard on the other hand has a long long long way tobgo to be a shotcsuporession center who then can transition tatger than a futile watcher and chaser spending too long in thecd-zone and seeing too many pucks fly into the Hawks net on his shifts.(do not think so? That ugly plus/minus in ES backs me up.Hecwill havecto learn to be much better in checking in the d-zone.
Nazar looks more actually speedy so there is hope he can eventualkyvrefibe that with smarter checking ..WITH Bedard not sure will ever be great in thecd-zobe...hecwill need to way outscore hodcd-flaws to get into positive territory

 

[CallMeShaft]

Foligno is just running on empty. At his age, he should be getting an easier workload than what he's gotten.

Not a big deal provided this team gets a little deeper up front next season. And with Nazar here and Hall and AA hopefully playing the majority of the season, it shouldn't be a problem. Also adding Celebrini and Kane would help.

 

[Backyard Hockey]

Foligno is just running on empty. At his age, he should be getting an easier workload than what he's gotten.

Not a big deal provided this team gets a little deeper up front next season. And with Nazar here and Hall and AA hopefully playing the majority of the season, it shouldn't be a problem. Also adding Celebrini and Kane would help.

No AA please

 

[Kevin Musto]

Foligno is just running on empty. At his age, he should be getting an easier workload than what he's gotten.

Not a big deal provided this team gets a little deeper up front next season. And with Nazar here and Hall and AA hopefully playing the majority of the season, it shouldn't be a problem. Also adding Celebrini and Kane would help.

Hall is cooked

 

[Taze em]

I stand by that. Having Leonard for Moore and Nazar would be a great deal for the Hawks. That was in the height of Nazar injury uncertainty. Hats off to me for suggesting a great deal.

 

[TLEH]

I stand by that. Having Leonard for Moore and Nazar would be a great deal for the Hawks. That was in the height of Nazar injury uncertainty. Hats off to me for suggesting a great deal.

I think Leonard is easily the best player of the 3, but for a team devoid of talent I'm not moving both for him.

 

[hockeydoug]

He's getting older. Getting worn down easier. Playing 72 games, heavy minutes, at going on 37 years old. And he has played a rough and tough game his entire career. Makes sense, IMO.

I'm actually shocked that we didn't see more games/shifts like this from Foligno given the age, mileage, and style.

While Richardson shocked me with how poorly he's done, one of the things I knocked him for early was leaning on Foligno for too many tough shifts in general. I don't expect Foligno to have anywhere near the year he had this year next year, but he held up much better than I would have guessed and Richardson didn't screw up leaning on him. It kills me to say it, but Richardson got that part right overall on the year.

Hall is cooked

It will be a half decade plus since he was a legitimate first line player. It will be interesting to see what's left.

 

[Taze em]

I think Leonard is easily the best player of the 3, but for a team devoid of talent I'm not moving both for him.

Yea. But if you’re gonna pull up receipts for a “gotcha” that one isn’t that unreasonable.

 

[ChiHawks10]

Yea. But if you’re gonna pull up receipts for a “gotcha” that one isn’t that unreasonable.

The gotcha wasn't really targeted at you I don't think. It was another person who went bonkers defending trading Nazar like 3 or 4 pages later.

 

[TLEH]

Yea. But if you’re gonna pull up receipts for a “gotcha” that one isn’t that unreasonable.

Wasn't even meant to be a gotcha. Just pulled the first message you had said that started the argument so ChiHawks10 could go back and read the arguement about Nazar being traded.

 

[Larmer83]

The gotcha wasn't really targeted at you I don't think. It was another person who went bonkers defending trading Nazar like 3 or 4 pages later.

Was this in the prospect thread? I recall a poster constantly knocking Nazar for his production compared to McGroarty and Brindley and for Nazar not being on the #1 PP unit.

I stand by that. Having Leonard for Moore and Nazar would be a great deal for the Hawks. That was in the height of Nazar injury uncertainty. Hats off to me for suggesting a great deal.

Get over yourself. It would not be a "great" deal for the Hawks.

 

[ChiHawks10]

Was this in the prospect thread? I recall a poster constantly knocking Nazar for his production compared to McGroarty and Brindley and for Nazar not being on the #1 PP unit.


Get over yourself. It would not be a "great" deal for the Hawks.

Might have been. You can go back in this thread and click on the post with the trade proposal and read through that thread if you want. Post #60.

 

[TLEH]

I even remember thinking after his slow start to his sophomore year like.. damn maybe he just will never be the same, but we just had to ride it out and hope for the best. Trading him wasn't an option. You wouldn't get the value back.

 

[Taze em]

Definitely went through it with Nazar. Loved then hated all the secrecy around his injury. Panick sold and then this year he’s been great no doubt.