Rumor: Hawks trading for Yakupov (upd: nope)

Blackhawkswincup · Oct 13, 2016

Looks great for Blues so far

Goal + assist tonight and has looked dangerous every shift tonight in offensive end

RememberTheRoar · Oct 13, 2016

Blackhawkswincup said:
Looks great for Blues so far

Goal + assist tonight and has looked dangerous every shift tonight in offensive end

Zawaski said on yesterday's podcast, the Hawks offered a better package and the hang up was NOT salary retention. He also said definitively, the deal falling apart was on Chiarelli, NOT Bowman.

Chiarelli could've had a better haul, but blew it. I'm interested to see how you spin this one to fit your #NeverStanley narrative?

JaegerDice · Oct 14, 2016

Plus, Im still certain Q would hate him and scratch him for Tootoo or Mashinter.

Hawkaholic · Oct 14, 2016

Yeah, because Hitchcock is definitely so much better at player selection :laugh:

BobbyJet · Oct 14, 2016

Hawkaholic said:
Yeah, because Hitchcock is definitely so much better at player selection

You really are the white knight.

Hawkaholic · Oct 14, 2016

BobbyJet said:
You really are the white knight.

Because I said Hitchcock was as bad as Q in lineup decisions?

Ace Rothstein · Oct 14, 2016

RememberTheRoar said:
Zawaski said on yesterday's podcast, the Hawks offered a better package and the hang up was NOT salary retention. He also said definitively, the deal falling apart was on Chiarelli, NOT Bowman.

Chiarelli could've had a better haul, but blew it. I'm interested to see how you spin this one to fit your #NeverStanley narrative?

Interesting stuff. I would like to hear more on this.

b1e9a8r5s · Oct 14, 2016

Ace Rothstein said:
Interesting stuff. I would like to hear more on this.

There's not much more to hear. Jay said that his source said the Hawks package was better and that it wasn't Stan's fault but wouldn't really elaborate beyond that.

RememberTheRoar · Oct 14, 2016

Ace Rothstein said:
Interesting stuff. I would like to hear more on this.

He mentioned twice in the Wednesday podcast. Once near the beginning, and again in the email segment.

He said he couldn't go into detail on it though. But I'm guessing he's getting this info from the same guy who told him about Saad's contract demands.

BK · Oct 14, 2016

RememberTheRoar said:
He mentioned twice in the Wednesday podcast. Once near the beginning, and again in the email segment.

He said he couldn't go into detail on it though. But I'm guessing he's getting this info from the same guy who told him about Saad's contract demands.

Jay Z. has some really solid sources.

ChiHawks10 · Oct 14, 2016

BK Lounge said:
Jay Z. has some really solid sources.

Yes he does.

BobbyJet · Oct 14, 2016

b1e9a8r5s said:
There's not much more to hear. Jay said that his source said the Hawks package was better and that it wasn't Stan's fault but wouldn't really elaborate beyond that.

BK Lounge said:
Jay Z. has some really solid sources.

Perhaps he does but it sounds more like homer talk to me.

A good GM, if he wants a player bad enough, will get the deal done. It's too easy to blame it on the other guy.

BTW ... these podcast guys also dissed Chiarelli for not signing Versteeg. Doh! Perhaps they need to stick to talking about baseball which they couldn't resist when Hawks was supposedly the topic at hand.

BK · Oct 14, 2016

BobbyJet said:
Perhaps he does but it sounds more like homer talk to me.

A good GM, if he wants a player bad enough, will get the deal done. It's too easy to blame it on the other guy.

BTW ... these podcast guys also dissed Chiarelli for not signing Versteeg. Doh! Perhaps they need to stick to talking about baseball which they couldn't resist when Hawks was supposedly the topic at hand.

If you make a deal that is better value but the team takes the other deal there is little you can do.

Which podcast guys? Jay Z and his podcast partner?

BobbyJet · Oct 14, 2016

BK Lounge said:
If you make a deal that is better value but the team takes the other deal there is little you can do.

Which podcast guys? Jay Z and his podcast partner?

Google Zawaski podcast.

piteus · Nov 29, 2016

Feels like we dodged a bullet. Not that I'm that familiar with Yakupov, but with 5 points in 16 games at $2.5mn ... he doesn't sound like the answer. And people seem to think he doesn't listen to his coaches ... which is a disaster when playing for Q.

Esq · Nov 29, 2016

piteus said:
Feels like we dodged a bullet. Not that I'm that familiar with Yakupov, but with 5 points in 16 games at $2.5mn ... he doesn't sound like the answer. And people seem to think he doesn't listen to his coaches ... which is a disaster when playing for Q.

We only dodged a bullet to the extent that Bowman would have given anything of value to acquire Yak.

Zero chance that Q would play him regularly.

Hawkaholic · Nov 29, 2016

I'm sure if he were here, certain people would be blaming Q for him sucking.

clydesdale line · Nov 29, 2016

Hitchcock was one of the worst coaches for him to go to.

Hawkaholic · Nov 29, 2016

clydesdale line said:
Hitchcock was one of the worst coaches for him to go to.

At some point, you just have to look at the player, who has had how different head coaches in the NHL now?

Esq · Nov 29, 2016

clydesdale line said:
Hitchcock was one of the worst coaches for him to go to.

Hitchcock has nothing to do with it. Yak doesn't listen to coaches, period. He just wants to "play his game." Which he'll soon be doing in the KHL.

clydesdale line · Nov 29, 2016

Hawkaholic said:
At some point, you just have to look at the player, who has had how different head coaches in the NHL now?

Oh no doubt Oilers crippled his development, but I was never a fan of his hockey sense. If you have 0 hockey sense and a lack of a defensive game (hmm.. sounds like Evander Kane right now too, another top 5 pick) you are going to struggle in the NHL. You can't have both and expect to be a solid player.

DisgruntledHawkFan · Nov 29, 2016

Hawkaholic said:
At some point, you just have to look at the player, who has had how different head coaches in the NHL now?

He's a limited offensive player but he's had the misfortune of playing under a couple coaches who don't know how/won't use a guy like Yak.

clydesdale line · Nov 29, 2016

Esq said:
Hitchcock has nothing to do with it.

Eh.. Hitch isn't a guy who brings the best out of his players (Probably a reason why I think some here take a guy like Q for granted). This is the same guy who Tarasenko pretty much called out in the playoffs for foolishly playing him under 18 minutes a night.. and rightfully so.

Hawkaholic · Nov 29, 2016

Esq said:
Hitchcock has nothing to do with it. Yak doesn't listen to coaches, period. He just wants to "play his game." Which he'll soon be doing in the KHL.

Yup, that has been the rumour about him. I don't blame coaches who don't want to use him if that is true, despite the talent.

Esq · Nov 29, 2016

clydesdale line said:
Eh.. Hitch isn't a guy who brings the best out of his players (Probably a reason why I think some here take a guy like Q for granted). This is the same guy who Tarasenko pretty much called out in the playoffs for foolishly playing him under 18 minutes a night.. and rightfully so.

How do you bring out the best in a guy that doesn't know where to be on the ice? This is basic positioning / responsibility we're talking about here.

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