Speculation: had the flyers made the playoffs this year

[Rarename91]

could you have seen flyers doing what st louis is doing if the flyers had gotten lucky?

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[Magua]

No. They played like shit and were lucky.

 

[Rich Nixon]

Um, no. St. Louis was playing really badly early this year, but they have a far more complete and experienced team. Parayko and Pietrangelo are both better than any defenseman on the Flyers. Their center depth, and overall forward depth, is terrific, despite not having any true superstars (Tarasenko, eh). Binnington has a golden horseshoe up his ass right now.

The Flyers wouldn't have made this run because they don't have the structure and their defense simply isn't good enough to compete at that level yet.

 

[YEM]

if the flyers had gotten lucky?

we need more than luck
out last finals appearance featured us playing a 6 seed in the east semis and an 8 seed in the east finals
and the SC finals ended with a guy we should have had on our team scoring the winner in our building wearing the #88

 

[Lotusflower]

Why traffic in impossibilites?

 

[Tripod]

no.

 

[TCTC]

Um, no. St. Louis was playing really badly early this year, but they have a far more complete and experienced team. Parayko and Pietrangelo are both better than any defenseman on the Flyers. Their center depth, and overall forward depth, is terrific, despite not having any true superstars (Tarasenko, eh). Binnington has a golden horseshoe up his ass right now.

The Flyers wouldn't have made this run because they don't have the structure and their defense simply isn't good enough to compete at that level yet.

Pretty much this. We don't have the depth, we don't have the D, we don't have the experience.
With a little luck we may would've won a round or two, but the Bruins would've swept us like they did Carolina.

 

[deadhead]

If the Flyers had an healthy Elliott to start the season and Couts and JVR, they might have sunk in with Hart showing up in January.

But St Louis is a veteran team, Thomas is playing great, but he's on the 3rd line as an energy player, not carrying the load.
Their top 3 D-men, 29, 25, 35, next three 25, 22, 32/29
Their top 11 forwards, 27, 27, 27, 30, 26, 24, 32, 19, 30, 34, 23

 

[TCTC]

If the Flyers had an healthy Elliott to start the season and Couts and JVR, they might have sunk in with Hart showing up in January.

But St Louis is a veteran team, Thomas is playing great, but he's on the 3rd line as an energy player, not carrying the load.
Their top 3 D-men, 29, 25, 35, next three 25, 22, 32/29
Their top 11 forwards, 27, 27, 27, 30, 26, 24, 32, 19, 30, 34, 23

That's exactly what should be Frost's role next season. Not centering the 2nd or 3rd line like some here want/expect him to.

 

[Curufinwe]

No, they did that in 2010, and you can only do it once a decade.

 

[Beef Invictus]

No, they did that in 2010, and you can only do it once a decade.

Those are the Flyers rules.

 

[renberg]

The concept is a scary thought. First of all, it probably would have meant that Hextall and Hakstol would still be here. Either that or Fletcher and Gordon. I think that having Fletcher and AV is the best duo for the Flyers going forward. Secondly, it probably would have convinced the front office to stay with most of the present roster which would have been a mistake. It needs more than some minor tweaking to be truly competitive.

 

[Angry Hockey Dad]

we need more than luck
out last finals appearance featured us playing a 6 seed in the east semis and an 8 seed in the east finals
and the SC finals ended with a guy we should have had on our team scoring the winner in our building wearing the #88

Wow that hurts extra now

 

[Embiid]

It's sad that this team has sunk so low with non playoff berths that the fans have to engage in hypotheticals....

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Oh hell no. But Hextall's plan was pretty similar to the Blues'. Not results. Just the approach.

Keep the core, hold onto guys you know you can't keep until you're out of it near the deadline, add key pieces by choosing to largely move out vets and picks over affiliated prospects unless they've fallen out of favor, depth being key, and defense first.

One team developed. The other didn't. Forget tanking vs not or whatever other insignificant issue seems most important. You develop talent on an organizational scale and you win. You don't, you get fired. Or hired by the Oilers.

 

[deadhead]

St Louis was already developed, people act as if St Louis last year = Flyers this year.

St Louis was a competitive team that went to the PO six straight years, then moved out some vets in a reload (Stastny, Shattenkirk, Reaves) and added some younger players, Schenn, ROR, Sundqvist, and a 3rd rd goalie arrived at age 25.

First you have to build the talent base, then make the playoffs for an extended period, then you have to figure out how to reload without having to rebuild. We're still in Phase I.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Flyers development was stagnating across the board. I'm told that coaches should get all the credit for that.

 

[Starat327]

Flyers development was stagnating across the board. I'm told that coaches should get all the credit for that.

I swear they dont even realize theyre walking into it.