Grabner vs. Okposo
Grabner vs. Sheppard
Who is better?
Grabner vs. Okposo
Grabner vs. Sheppard
Who is better?
I just came from the Pogge / Schneider thread and tried to turn down the homerism by OBJECTIVELY critiquing both (seen both WJC last year - I live in Van) and calling them EQUAL for now.
But here, come on now people .....
Tlusty >> Grabner
Tlusty's goal-scoring ability may not be what Grabner's is but it's not SO far off and Tlusty is a better all-round player and,in particular, better skater and passer and I've read that Grabner shys away from the boardwork and, having seen Tlusty on tv and a number of video reels, he does not.
Remember when the Oiler's reached down the draft board to take a "pure sniper" (as Grabner's been called) in Michael Henrich from Barrie? How'd that turn out for them? I have to admit I thought of him when the Canucks went off the board for Grabner. Ty Wishart (B.C. Boy) would have been a much better pick for the organization at the #14 pick IMO I'm not suggesting Grabner will be a bust but Tlusty is very much the better all-round prospect.
Tlusty's goal-scoring ability may not be what Grabner's is but it's not SO far off and Tlusty is a better all-round player and,in particular, better skater and passer and I've read that Grabner shys away from the boardwork and, having seen Tlusty on tv and a number of video reels, he does not.
Remember when the Oiler's reached down the draft board to take a "pure sniper" (as Grabner's been called) in Michael Henrich from Barrie? How'd that turn out for them? I have to admit I thought of him when the Canucks went off the board for Grabner. Ty Wishart (B.C. Boy) would have been a much better pick for the organization at the #14 pick IMO I'm not suggesting Grabner will be a bust but Tlusty is very much the better all-round prospect.
I don't understand how you can place Tlusty as a better prospect than Grabner other than homer opinions.
The independent ranking services had Tlusty ranked higher also.
Tlusty is not a better skater, there is very few propects in the world that are better skaters than Grabner. Grabner doesn't shy away from boardwork, I don't know where you read that, because every Chiefs fan I've talked to have told me that he goes into the corners, lays out hits, and goes to the net. Grabner isn't nearly as one dimensional as some people are suggesting, he's got areas he needs to work on but he's by no means one dimensional.
That was before Grabner exploded late in the WHL season.
I'd find it hard to see any scouting services rank Tlusty considerably higher than Grabner right -now-.
I think Michael has more upside not only because of his skillset but because all you ever hear from him is that he wants to do whatever it takes to be a Canuck, when we saw him in camp this season he was walking around in a Canucks t-shirt, wearing Canuck warm up shorts, and a Canuck hat. The drive alone in him is enough to put him above alot of other prospects.
Just curious but didn't his recent scoring start to pick up once most of the top players in the league left for the World Juniors?Ty Wishart MOST DEFINATELY is not the better pick than Grabner. Holy Moses. I would be pissed if Vancouver wasted a 14th pick on Wishart for so many reasons.
And Tlusty > Grabner is just not so. Rationally speaking they are at least even. Looking at the stats, Grabner is outpacing Tlusty in ppg in the more defensive oriented WHL. Ever since coming back from injury he's on a torrid pace scoring 2g's per game. He's on pace to nab the goal scoring trophy in the dub as well.
I don't understand how you can place Tlusty as a better prospect than Grabner other than homer opinions.
Just curious but didn't his recent scoring start to pick up once most of the top players in the league left for the World Juniors?
Hence the question mark at the end of my statement.No, his scoring picked up when he came back from injury. I hardly think eight WHL defenseman leaving for the World Juniors had such a big impact on Grabner's play. Especially since Spokane has only played one WHL team with a d-man at the WJC (Juraj Valach) since Grabner has come back from his injury.
What a ridiculous comment.
Tlusty was on pace to score 41 goals in the AHL, doesn't mean he was going to get that much.Ty Wishart MOST DEFINATELY is not the better pick than Grabner. Holy Moses. I would be pissed if Vancouver wasted a 14th pick on Wishart for so many reasons.
And Tlusty > Grabner is just not so. Rationally speaking they are at least even. Looking at the stats, Grabner is outpacing Tlusty in ppg in the more defensive oriented WHL. Ever since coming back from injury he's on a torrid pace scoring 2g's per game. He's on pace to nab the goal scoring trophy in the dub as well.
I don't understand how you can place Tlusty as a better prospect than Grabner other than homer opinions.
Tlusty was on pace to score 41 goals in the AHL, doesn't mean he was going to get that much.
I just came from the Pogge / Schneider thread and tried to turn down the homerism by OBJECTIVELY critiquing both (seen both WJC last year - I live in Van) and calling them EQUAL for now.
But here, come on now people .....
Tlusty >> Grabner
Tlusty's goal-scoring ability may not be what Grabner's is but it's not SO far off and Tlusty is a better all-round player and,in particular, better skater and passer and I've read that Grabner shys away from the boardwork and, having seen Tlusty on tv and a number of video reels, he does not.
Remember when the Oiler's reached down the draft board to take a "pure sniper" (as Grabner's been called) in Michael Henrich from Barrie? How'd that turn out for them? I have to admit I thought of him when the Canucks went off the board for Grabner. Ty Wishart (B.C. Boy) would have been a much better pick for the organization at the #14 pick IMO I'm not suggesting Grabner will be a bust but Tlusty is very much the better all-round prospect.
Have you seen Tlusty play?You have never seen Grabner play and yet you make statements like this? Coffee calling the kettle black I think. Right now, Grabner has higher potential - and that is all we can say.
Have you seen Tlusty play?
... I haven't seen either of them, really ... Grabner just has more potential offensively.