Speculation: Gostisbehere - Too early to freak out?

[catbellysqueezer]

 

[phillydownsouth]

BSH- classic clowns

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Gostisbehere Thread - Too Early To Lock?

 

[Caesar]

Can anyone who believes Hagg has been better than Ghost and Myers please explicitly say so in this thread?

I’d like to have it on record.

Thanks!

I'll go on record saying Robert Hagg played better than Shayne Gostisbehere from the beginning of the season until the game vs Columbus in November. I'm not saying Hagg is more talented or is a better defensemen than Ghost, but he had played better hockey in the first 25 games or so compared to Ghost. I like Ghost and want him to do well, just gotta find what works with the system and the team chemistry.

 

[PhlthyRich]

More rumors of Ghost to MTL are popping up

 

[David St Hubbins]

More rumors of Ghost to MTL are popping up

Montreal is almost as bad as Toronto in trading for everyone (per rumours). Can anyone translate?

Les discussions entre les Canadiens et les Flyers se seraient intensifiées

I cant for the life of me think of someone on that roster that I would want.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Suzuki but that ain’t happening.

 

[David St Hubbins]

Who do you play Suzuki in front of? TK, Farabee, Jake? Just dont see the value in moving Ghost, especially for a forward. We're adding to a logjam up front and putting Hagg into the lineup every night.

 

[Curufinwe]

10 things: The Flyers are becoming a final-two-periods team...

Over the course of about 30 seconds, Gostisbehere makes three separate strong plays, one in each zone. First, he cuts off a lazy Toronto pass and immediately carries the puck up ice, singlehandedly generating a controlled defensive zone exit (and later a controlled entry). Seconds later, he jumps on a loose puck in the neutral zone before threading a feed through two Maple Leafs to create another entry. Finally, clearly brimming with confidence, he executes one of his patented stop/start maneuvers at the blue line, slipping past Zach Hyman, which led him to take a penalty out of desperation.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Montreal is almost as bad as Toronto in trading for everyone (per rumours). Can anyone translate?

Les discussions entre les Canadiens et les Flyers se seraient intensifiées

I cant for the life of me think of someone on that roster that I would want.

I don’t see a Ghost trade fit for the Flyers with the Habs, either.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Who do you play Suzuki in front of? TK, Farabee, Jake? Just dont see the value in moving Ghost, especially for a forward. We're adding to a logjam up front and putting Hagg into the lineup every night.

This is too near sighted.

You would make this move for the long haul- adding a expansion exempt player in exchange for a player the team views as a 3rd pair defenseman and is likely to expose or trade before the ED. Yeah there would need to be another move made to upgrade from Hagg, but that really shouldn't be too difficult. Zamula, York, and Kalynuk with all be turning pro within the next year or two. ​

To be clear, I am on Team Ghost in the top 4 and on the top PP. But given his current usage, if they were looking for a deal, you likely aren't getting a young player better than Suzuki (not that Montreal is going to give him up). You worry about the fit later.

He's in the Frost/Farabee tier so it's a moot point anyway.​

 

[Beef Invictus]

This is too near sighted.

You would make this move for the long haul- adding a expansion exempt player in exchange for a player the team views as a 3rd pair defenseman and is likely to expose or trade before the ED. Yeah there would need to be another move made to upgrade from Hagg, but that really shouldn't be too difficult. Zamula, York, and Kalynuk with all be turning pro within the next year or two. ​

To be clear, I am on Team Ghost in the top 4 and on the top PP. But given his current usage, if they were looking for a deal, you likely aren't getting a young player better than Suzuki (not that Montreal is going to give him up). You worry about the fit later.

He's in the Frost/Farabee tier so it's a moot point anyway.​

I'm enjoying the ransom note vibe.

 

[landsbergfan]

Jeffrey Epstein didn’t kill himself. That’s all folks.

Did he say that in an interview?

 

[FLYguy3911]

I'm enjoying the ransom note vibe.

I have no idea why my font keeps changing mid post.

 

[deadhead]

Who do you play Suzuki in front of? TK, Farabee, Jake? Just dont see the value in moving Ghost, especially for a forward. We're adding to a logjam up front and putting Hagg into the lineup every night.

We could use a young RW (so Farabee can move back to LW), and a 4C, maybe both in the same package (RH 4C who can play wing).
Montreal doesn't have anything we'd want, Suzuki is more of what we have, while we could use speed, I'm think more like Kapanen.
A young RHD with top four talent would be nice to replace Niskanen down the road, but good luck nailing one of them without trading York or Zamula.

 

[flyersnorth]

Montreal is almost as bad as Toronto in trading for everyone (per rumours). Can anyone translate?

Les discussions entre les Canadiens et les Flyers se seraient intensifiées

I cant for the life of me think of someone on that roster that I would want.

Basically, it says the Habs are in need of a LHD and that the in-house options they do have aren't appealling (and apparently Folin is in the AHL now lol).

There is also mention that, from a reputable source, the Flyers/Habs are at an advanced stage of negotiations. They didn't directly talk acquisition cost on RDS last night (the French TSN), but when RDS did talk price in November, it was believed to be 2nd rounder, Lehkonen, and Ylonen.

Honestly, that's a whole lot of B-level pieces. If they're gonna trade Ghost, I'm sure they could do better. I'll take quality over quantity.

 

[Flyer lurker]

same website that mentioned shaw for ghost in june ummm sure.

 

[NYCFlyer]

Basically, it says the Habs are in need of a LHD and that the in-house options they do have aren't appealling (and apparently Folin is in the AHL now lol).

There is also mention that, from a reputable source, the Flyers/Habs are at an advanced stage of negotiations. They didn't directly talk acquisition cost on RDS last night (the French TSN), but when RDS did talk price in November, it was believed to be 2nd rounder, Lehkonen, and Ylonen.

Honestly, that's a whole lot of B-level pieces. If they're gonna trade Ghost, I'm sure they could do better. I'll take quality over quantity.

I don't see why we would even entertain that trade. Just makes us worse. Especially when the team is playing better than it has in many years. Would either of those guys even crack the lineup?

 

[deadhead]

Ylonen #35-2018,. just turned 20, listed at 6'1 172, RW, last year Liiga 53g 13-14 27 +10, WJC-20 7g 3-3 6.
He would fit an organizational need but we're talking a couple years down the road to compete with Brink, etc.

Lehkonen #55-2013, 24 years old, undersized LW 5'11 181 without great speed, in his 4th NHL season.
Not a bad player, 31 ES points last year playing 12:44 at ES, 12 ES points in 28g playing 12:19, E +/- of +10.1 last season.
Problem is we have no room in the top nine for LH forwards.
Probably needed to balance the cap hit for Montreal.

 

[Tripod]

And in Friedman's 31 thoughts, the Ghost to Mtl rumors were denied, fwiw.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Ghost to Montreal never made sense. That contract makes him worth more than they should be willing to part with. At the same time, he on his own isn't fixing them while carrying a hefty price.

His abilities and cap hit make sense for a potential contender who wants to make a run and doesn't mind paying for it, not a team better served by using those assets to build itself. But why would we be selling?

Either way I don't see how it benefits the Flyers right now, and we should be looking to compete now at this point.

 

[Tripod]

Ghost to Montreal makes sense...for Montreal only. He would be their best LHD and play with Weber on the top pairing. Mete WAS that guy.

 

[backburner]

Man that trade thread was an insult. They want him for nothing to play on a top pair?

 

[The Madrigal]

Good few games from Ghost. Good to see he is now on pace for 27 points.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Are his hits and blocked shots on pace for career lows as well?