Golden Knights Trademark Issue Thread.

[BattleBorn]

Let's keep everything related in this thread.

http://tsdr.uspto.gov/documentviewer?caseId=sn87147239&docId=OOA20161207114432#docIndex=0&page=1
http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2016/12...k-application-denied-bill-foley-nhl-expansion

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[TheMule93]

Hey OP, if they change the logo to your avatar, will you pls not sue them

 

[BattleBorn]

Hey OP, if they change the logo to your avatar, will you pls not sue them

It's not my call. We'll have to ask Sparky.

 

[member 151739]

The logos aren't even remotely similar. Their logo is a standard armet.

 

[702]

CHANGE THE DANG NAME ALREADY.

What a mess lol

 

[BattleBorn]

The logos aren't even remotely similar. Their logo is a standard armet.

I think it might be the actual name that's getting denied, I'm still trying to read through the legalese.

Plus, there's no definition of types of armor in the trademark law. A knight helmet is a knight helmet is a knight helmet. However, if it's coming down to the logo, the V shape in their helmet might cause enough confusion for a trademark attorney to deny.

 

[BattleBorn]

Okay, got through it.

As a disclaimer, I'm not an attorney at all and the extent of my trademark knowledge goes as far as my own experiences with the USPTO and my personal trademark registrations.

It looks to me like this is a denial of a type logo (meaning words) likely the Vegas Golden Knights logo with the little stars and without the helmet (which doesn't have wording.)

I don't think the name is the issue, but rather that single instance of Vegas Golden Knights. This one:

Again, I'm not an expert, just putting together what I've read in the decision and doing almost zero extra work like referencing actual applications. If what I know and read is correct, they'll likely just have to stop using that exact version of the branding or submit their response to keep using it and pursue trademark approval.

 

[jwhouk]

Yeah, that's the only part that the school seems to have issue with.

Geez, this sounds like a cash grab.

 

[BattleBorn]

Yeah, that's the only part that the school seems to have issue with.

Geez, this sounds like a cash grab.

From what I'm reading, it doesn't look like the school has an issue at all.

This appears to be the USPTO trademark attorney doing their job and denying the mark due to potential confusion with the school. I'm guessing they're as surprised by this as Foley.

 

[Ginormousthumbs]

What happens in Vegas, happens in Vegas.

 

[HanSolo]

Such a messy start we're having. Bummer.

 

[702]

Such a messy start we're having. Bummer.

#ThanksFoley

 

[HanSolo]

I get you're bitter about the name but no Foley=no team.

 

[702]

I get you're bitter about the name but no Foley=no team.

That's fine, but Foley = Name Debacle

It's fair to criticize him for the path he chose to end up in this **** pile.

 

[Ginormousthumbs]

How did the last group of expansion teams fair?
Also, am I the only one who is annoyed with the term The Creator?

 

[CokenoPepsi]

Just pay Mark Hunter 100K and use the Knights name

 

[HanSolo]

That's fine, but Foley = Name Debacle

It's fair to criticize him for the path he chose to end up in this **** pile.

I suppose. But it's already a bummer these days as it is without people jumping down the throat of the guy who made a team here possible.

 

[702]

I suppose. But it's already a bummer these days as it is without people jumping down the throat of the guy who made a team here possible.

Shouldn't have been so stubborn and treasure his own selfish history when naming the team.


Don't give me the 500 mill BS either. Sick of that.

 

[Ginormousthumbs]

I actually feel bad for the fans and the organization. They are already getting flack for Quebec being passed over. Flack for the glitch in the reveal and now this.
Does anyone think there will be prop bets for total wins next season?

 

[702]

I actually feel bad for the fans and the organization. They are already getting flack for Quebec being passed over. Flack for the glitch in the reveal and now this.
Does anyone think there will be prop bets for total wins next season?

There was already prop bets for total points next year. I can't remember the exact number I want to say 72.5

 

[Ginormousthumbs]

There was already prop bets for total points next year. I can't remember the exact number I want to say 72.5

I might place a bet. I was feeling around 20 wins.

 

[HanSolo]

Shouldn't have been so stubborn and treasure his own selfish history when naming the team.


Don't give me the 500 mill BS either. Sick of that.

You may be sick of it but it's not BS. 500 million isn't 50,000. 500 m is a lot of money. Some countries would get a huge boost to their economy with 500m. He has the right to call it what he wants. Thought he could've named it Silver Knights and avoided all these headaches.

We can be disappointed in the name. But he has the right to call the team what he wants. Now he has to shoulder the burden of his decision.

 

[702]

I'm definitely enjoying this.

 

[jwhouk]

I think 72.5 is the point total, which wouldn't be completely achievable.

 

[Advanced stats]

Just pay Mark Hunter 100K and use the Knights name

Hunter would laugh.

He's a millionaire, and owns the best/most popular/most valueable team in the CHL.


He's already said Vegas can use the Knights name though.