Post-Game Talk: [GM4] Canucks lose to Lightning | 3-4 (Boeser, Myers, & Miller | .500 Hockey Club

[Petey But Really Jim]

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[Breakers]

Watched it like 10X how idiotic that play is on the winning goal

Pettersson is doing his job perfectly on the PK -------- Text-Book
1) He is pinning the puck against the boards
2) Shielding two tampa players, bodying paul, and stick checking Point
3) Draining the clock
4) He doesnt need any help

Sure enough..................Here comes Dr. Lankenstein, trips over Brayden's point stick and tackles Pettersson in the process.

"5-on-4" turns into a "5-on-2"
Paul has 4 different options, and he slides it over to the maybe the 2nd best PP merchant in the entire league.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Watched the highlights.

Holy shit Myers had a rough game.

@Chairman Maouth Has chosen quite the hill to die on here...

 

[kranuck]

I don't

What happens to competent d-men when they come to Vancouver? They seem to suddenly morph into defensive train-wrecks.

I mean Ian Cole and Carson Soucy were solid d-men at their previous stops in Tampa and Seattle. But off the last two games, it's like they're flailing on an island out there. In recent seasons it just seems that every guy who comes in via free agency struggles mightily.

I suppose part of it is the forwards not winning board battles to get the puck out along wall....or turning if over in the neutral and then not getting back.

But just seemed in this game the Canucks defense completely abandoned the middle of the ice and backed in on Demko. Once again Demko was both brilliant and lucky in this one. And that's no recipe for long-term success.

To be fair the main thing I remember about Soucy from last year is when he took the absolute dumbest penalty I've ever seen and cost the Kraken a game.

He's okay. He's an NHL caliber defender, but he's a bottom pairing guy.

 

[Hit the post]

@Chairman Maouth Has chosen quite the hill to die on here...

A challenge has been thrown!

 

[PuckMunchkin]

A challenge has been thrown!

 

[Diogenes92]

I don’t think Hronek has been bad defensively. Has he even been on the ice for a goal against this season? Outside of dumb penalties he’s been rock solid.

The problem is having 1 pairing. By putting Hughes and Hronek together …. You have a 4/5 in Cole babysitting an unplayable Myers.

I just haven't seen the impact that many were saying was a given when they first aquired him.

I see multiple concerning signs in his game up to this point and I wouldn't be surprised if Yzerman sold high on him.

 

[wonton15]

Fire Myers into the sun, cowards

 

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A challenge has been thrown!

Canucks better make the playoffs because I need more of your posts in my life

 

[elitepete]

The fact that this management group think they can win anything with Myers in the top 4 is a joke.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Oh. I f***in love people blaming Pettersson while he leads the league in points.

I just haven't seen the impact that many were saying was a given when they first aquired him.

I see multiple concerning signs in his game up to this point and I wouldn't be surprised if Yzerman sold high on him.

I have not noticed him much at all. This can be good, but not when you paid what we paid. (Useless magic beans)

I think Hughes + Hronek is a very solid Dpair.

We do not have the depth to stack them. They are our 1st & 2nd best players when it comes to moving the puck from the back end.

 

[iceburg]

Drance was going on about how blaming Myers was incorrect. He said you should blame the top players for not playing good enough. Obviously paraphrasing.

I actually disagree strongly. In such a tight league gross mistakes are the difference in games. And tonight was the best example of that. Simply replacing Myers with a legitimate top four defenceman completely changes the outcome of games.

 

[Vector]

Drance was going on about how blaming Myers was incorrect. He said you should blame the top players for not playing good enough. Obviously paraphrasing.

I actually disagree strongly. In such a tight league gross mistakes are the difference in games. And tonight was the best example of that. Simply replacing Myers with a legitimate top four defenceman completely changes the outcome of games.

Myers is France’s new Green. Taking a flimsy contrarian stance to argue that everyone else is overreacting.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Well, on a more positive note. OEL was the 3rd star of the game this evening in the Panthers win, scored a goal and is averaging about 25 minutes a night so far for Florida. Could be the feel good story of the season.

I’m glad he’s doing well but nothing can justify him staying with his old contract

 

[calnuck]

Myers is France’s new Green. Taking a flimsy contrarian stance to argue that everyone else is overreacting.

This is beyond contrarian though. This is straight up delusion.

 

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editing

 

[Hit the post]

Nope. You needed to reply with these clowns (Insane Clown Posse):

 

[Grub]

You really thought it was going to be a special start... but here we are again.

Until proven otherwise, that defence still looks pretty awful

I’m OK with the forwards, the lines need to get going here but that will come once we have adequate defenders, really

Defend does look awful. We need one more guy that can slot in as a stable top 4 D-men.

The old Tanev - Edler pair is still more dependable than any of those pairings.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

Don't get how Boeser is catching any flack he is literally the only forward who knows how to find soft spots in the slot and move without the puck right now.

Things I think are working in the lineup are the Miller line and the goalie Tandem (Demko 1 and DeSmith 2) everything else needs to be tweaked. The Petey line needs to be changed put Beauliviller on it idk do something. Put Lafferty-Suter-Hoglander together. Joshua, and Studnika, have been absolute crap. Please separate Hughes-Hronek they aren't even playing that well together.

 

[rypper]

You really thought it was going to be a special start... but here we are again.

Hey they're 2-2. Let's see what things look like after 10 games.

 

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Don't get how Boeser is catching any flack he is literally the only forward who knows how to find soft spots in the slot and move without the puck right now.

Things I think are working in the lineup are the Miller line and the goalie Tandem (Demko 1 and DeSmith 2) everything else needs to be tweaked. The Petey line needs to be changed put Beauliviller on it idk do something. Put Lafferty-Suter-Hoglander together. Joshua, and Studnika, have been absolute crap. Please separate Hughes-Hronek they aren't even playing that well together.

I agree with splitting up Hughes and Hronek, I really think it’s working more against us, from a whole team standpoint.

That defence is still a joke, simply put

 

[Hit the post]

Hey they're 2-2. Let's see what things look like after 10 games.

heh. Remember Brian Burke's rant: "I will not evaluate Mike Keenan until he's had a chance to work with the assets in any future Bure trade. It would not be fair to him". Trades Pavel Bure & after two games the Canucks were 1-1. Keenan was fired pretty much that night or the next day.

 

[TryamkinPleaseReturn]

The most mine boggling stat was Tyler Myers only played 15 minutes. How can one man cause so much damage in such a short amount of time?

A really good description of his play-style

Drance was going on about how blaming Myers was incorrect. He said you should blame the top players for not playing good enough. Obviously paraphrasing.

I actually disagree strongly. In such a tight league gross mistakes are the difference in games. And tonight was the best example of that. Simply replacing Myers with a legitimate top four defenceman completely changes the outcome of games.

Heck you could make the case that replacing him with a bag of oreos would yield more positive results

 

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Heck you could make the case that replacing him with a bag of oreos would yield more positive results

Case closed. Congratulations on the victory, bag of Oreos.

 

[TruGr1t]

Myers is France’s new Green. Taking a flimsy contrarian stance to argue that everyone else is overreacting.

Lots of Myers defenders post-game, not just Drance. Apparently he just needs more structure and has decent underlying stats. iMac admitted the quiet part out loud when he said we’re basically stuck with him anyways and anyone we replace him with internally is likely worse.