Post-Game Talk: [GM18] Canucks lose 4-3 to the Kracken

CanucksSayEh

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'working well together' has it's limits. PDG has meh 3rd liner numbers this year and last, playing exclusively on the Miller line.

Our biggest need, remains a top line winger. All our goals against come after a missed scoring chance from a tweener.

Use the leftovers for a depth Dman.

Team should have made an offer for Nylander in the offseason that couldn't be refused.
 

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It's a double-edged sword tbh. The Canucks' schedule going into March and April is spaced out with plenty of rest. If the Canucks make the playoffs, they won't be going through an intense grind leading up to them.
I honestly just wish the NHL started the season earlier (only option since they would never lower the amount of games). You're doing a disservice to the fans by having a condensed schedule of sloppy hockey
 

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Hughes and Hronek are the worst trending pairing right now in the league 5v5.

Massive regression, and their expected results show that. They are tanking quicker than Twitters value.

They are giving up so many scoring chances against right now

They need to get their sh(t together as even the eye test shows that the past 3 or 4 games.
 

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Hughes and Hronek are the worst trending pairing right now in the league 5v5.

Massive regression, and their expected results show that. They are tanking quicker than Twitters value.

They are giving up so many scoring chances against right now

They need to get their sh(t together as even the eye test shows that the past 3 or 4 games.

Split them up for the time being.
 

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Guess which is Kraken, which is Canucks
 

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Hughes and Hronek are the worst trending pairing right now in the league 5v5.

Massive regression, and their expected results show that. They are tanking quicker than Twitters value.

They are giving up so many scoring chances against right now

They need to get their sh(t together as even the eye test shows that the past 3 or 4 games.

Its the price you pay to put 2 offensive minded dman together, when your team has the puck and is playing well, they will look especially good.

When your team is pushed back and they are asked to do heavy lifting in the dzone, it shoudn't be a surprise that they would have trouble handling much bigger forwards cycling and crashing the net.
 
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that there was a low biorhthym team. multiple guys had not much to give.

teams are also figuring out how to get to pettersson, hronek and hughes. miller continues to be elusive.
 
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Game helped illustrate how thin the team actually is. Had only four legitimate NHL defenseman and too many of the bottom forwards can't score. When the Big 4 (Hughes, Hronek, Pettersson and Miller) can't carry the team they have little else to turn to. Loss of Soucy has been critical.

You look at scoring from the bottom end and it isn't enough

Beauvillier - -2 goals
Garland - 2 goals
Joshua - 2 goals
Hoglander - 4 goals
Lafferty -3 goals
Di Guiseppe - 3 goals
Suter/Blueger - 4 goals
Kuzmenko - 3 goals

Could say, at times, these players have contribute some good defense, PK work and o-zone time but these players are not taking any of the pressure off the top few players offensively. Other teams simply focus on the top players and can pretty much disregard the rest.

Good

Myers - Up to the give away in the third was having an excellent game. Overall was physical and moving the puck up well.

Hronek - wasn't perfect but played his heart out to make up for bad plays by teammates and some of his own. Wish he'd get his shot on net a little more.

Hughes - again not up to his usual standards but he is being played to death. Keyed much of the offense the team was able to produce.

Pettersson - defensively he was very good. Given the weakness of others had to spend much of his time defending and thus not getting much chance offensivley.

Miller - played well enough although he couldn't carry the team in this game.

Bad

Juulsen - actually somewhat better than the last couple of games but still terrible. One of the biggest difference in this game was the way Kraken defended around their own net and the way the Canuck defense didn't . Juulsen tried to rough it up some but mostly just flailing

Hirose - always felt he would be too small and too slow to defend at the NHL level and this game more or less confirmed that. Another strange call up.

Kuzmenko - got to give the player a break coming off the injury but really his play in this game wasn't much different than it has been all season. Just nothing happening and damn bad in his own end. I'd say the biggest disappointment this season.

Blueger - didn't cover in his own end well and, while making small plays here and there (such as chipping the puck ahead), he showed little ability to carry the puck or set anything up. Another disappointment.

Others

Hoglander - seems like his motor works a lot faster than brain. Always rushing chances and missing opportunities. He is a player the team needs to score and out of the bottom line players he might be the most likely to do so. However, others are better in the neutral zone and defensively and you are giving up this to keep him in the lineup.

Boeser - Boeser chief skill now appears to his ability to make good passes and plays in the offensive zone. Often can pick out the right man to send the puck to which helps on the PP. But play in his own end remains suspect b/c of his slow movement and lack of anticipation. Other offensive player have the same problem across the League. Yet most of these use their smarts and savvy to shorten up distances and keep some pressure on the puck. Boeser, most of the time, just looks lost.

Right now the Canucks IMO lack

2 NHL defensemen

A top end scoring winger with speed who can play both ways

Scoring from the bottom lines
 
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Just what I thought, myers had a good game, just made one bad mistake

Dude I'm sorry but he was pretty bad. I'll go back and watch and give the details but generally he and Juulsen make bad decisions that lead to turnovers and/or a disruption of Canucks possession. Those lead to goals, sometimes spectacularly but more often as a cascade of decisions where their bad decisions start the chain of events that end in a goal against.
 
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Dude I'm sorry but he was pretty bad. I'll go back and watch and give the details but generally he and Juulsen make bad decisions that lead to turnovers and/or a disruption of Canucks possession. Those lead to goals, sometimes spectacularly but more often as a cascade of decisions where their bad decisions start the chain of events that end in a goal against.

It’s not even just the goals. It’s the pressure against that leads the Canucks unable to execute breakouts, leading to dump ins and line changes or puck-glass-out. Wears down a team over the course of a game.
 

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Overall I thought it was kinda sloppy by both teams, so it was a fairly even game that just bounced towards Seattle. Not really taking away anything from this game other than our defensive depth needing addition at the deadline.
 
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Sergei Shirokov

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'working well together' has it's limits. PDG has meh 3rd liner numbers this year and last, playing exclusively on the Miller line.

Our biggest need, remains a top line winger. All our goals against come after a missed scoring chance from a tweener.

Use the leftovers for a depth Dman.

Team should have made an offer for Nylander in the offseason that couldn't be refused.

They need another top 3 defenseman more than they need a winger, but I agree another impact player upfront would be a huge boost. Kuzy is a great complementary piece but not a driver unfortunately.
 
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They are playing like they did the previous years lately, get out worked 5v5 and try to rely on PPs. Myers is a liability under pressure, should be 10 mins a game, even on his good days there is always a couple costly plays. Juulsen isnt it unfortunately. Hirose is just a bit too small and raw. Freidman was doing very well for what he is but of course gets scratched. Top two are being overworked and making mistakes. Petey is putting up points but acting like he did when everyone hated him a few years ago. Demko isnt tracking well again lately and losing his net. Kuz is slumping hard. Garland is trying but isnt a good fit right now. Beau is trying but the skill isnt there, too soft. Hogs is turning into a role player in front of our eyes. Miller gives 110% on almost every shift
 

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