Post-Game Talk: [GM15] Canucks defeat Canadiens | 5-2 (Garland, Mikheyev, Joshua, Boeser, and PDG) | Right Back At It

[andora]

Right now we have a lot of guys outperforming their current contracts.

Petey, Hughes, Miller, Mik, Hronek, PDG, Demko, DeSmith.

We are getting a lot of surplus value.

so you can on non ELC ? i kid

add cole in there

 

[iceburg]

Man Casey DeSmith looks like a medical technician or intern accountant. He does not look like pro athlete. But he is good!

 

[arttk]

so you can on non ELC ? i kid

add cole in there

I think folks thinks the only way to win is to have ELC contributing like 10M in surplus value. Yeah that helps but the only team that got that was like the Avs and Chicago like 10 years ago.

 

[mossey3535]

I don’t know. I think you’re being a bit too hard on the team here. They did what they had to do to win. You can’t go balls to the wall every game. You have to manage your energy through an 82 game season, and that’s what they did tonight. Canucks have enough depth that allows for the big guns to relax a bit and still come out with the victory.

I didn't claim that they should go balls to the wall every game. But last night's effort wasn't great. And tonight was against a middling team. Yes it was a back-to-back but it was also one for the Habs against an equal or arguably better team. So that's a wash.

My stance was always that I'm ok as long as we see progress. And we have for many points in the season. But this game and last seemed like regression. And yeah that was going to happen. But the weaknesses of the team were very clear this weekend. I stand by my assessment. We were lucky to get away with the dangerous and careless passes in the first 1.5 periods by what is normally our best d-pair. Myers was roaming all over the ice again. Juulsen was doing the same. Neither of the top two lines had energy and didn't seem willing to get in hard on the forecheck. Both games.

Before the best lines were humming and Hughes/Hronek was hot too. Now we see what happens when that isn't happening as much. And it shows that the team has a lot of issues in terms of depth especially on the blueline. On the other hand, they found a way to win. Still, this team still has a ways to go before they get benefit of the doubt. If they had lost this game as well then it would look like a very down weekend.

 

[Buresflyingelbow]

Casey DeSmith is damn good, one of our better backups ever so far.

So was Spencer Martin

 

[Souker]

The Habs radio announcers were discussing this during the 2nd intermission.
"Depends on your definition of 'real'?"
"Are they going to continue their 10-3-1 pace for the rest of the season?"
"What does that put them on pace for, I can't do the math?" (me - 123 points!!!! LOL)
"Well no, because they are scoring at a great clip, and that will slow down, then we will see if they are for real." (me- because they aren't the greatest regular season team of all time I guess?)
"Do I think they are cup contenders? No. Do I think they will make noise in the playoffs? Yes. And they should make the playoffs after this start."

It is a valid question.
I’m not gonna make a lot of friends here saying this but after having watched a few Canucks games and they give “good regular season team but will fall short come playoff time” vibe if I may be honest. Reminds me a bit of the 2007-2008 Canadiens.
If I be was a wild card team in the west, I’d much rather face the Canucks than Vegas, Dallas or Colorado.
Just early season impressions.

 

[arttk]

I didn't claim that they should go balls to the wall every game. But last night's effort wasn't great. And tonight was against a middling team. Yes it was a back-to-back but it was also one for the Habs against an equal or arguably better team. So that's a wash.

My stance was always that I'm ok as long as we see progress. And we have for many points in the season. But this game and last seemed like regression. And yeah that was going to happen. But the weaknesses of the team were very clear this weekend. I stand by my assessment. We were lucky to get away with the dangerous and careless passes in the first 1.5 periods by what is normally our best d-pair. Myers was roaming all over the ice again. Juulsen was doing the same. Neither of the top two lines had energy and didn't seem willing to get in hard on the forecheck. Both games.

Before the best lines were humming and Hughes/Hronek was hot too. Now we see what happens when that isn't happening as much. And it shows that the team has a lot of issues in terms of depth especially on the blueline. On the other hand, they found a way to win. Still, this team still has a ways to go before they get benefit of the doubt. If they had lost this game as well then it would look like a very down weekend.

I think it will take more time to really get rid of the bad habits that has been here for so long.
They should be home soon, hope they get like a practice or two before Wed to reinforce those good habits.

 

[Hammer79]

It is a valid question.
I’m not gonna make a lot of friends here saying this but after having watched a few Canucks games and they give “good regular season team but will fall short come playoff time” vibe if I may be honest. Reminds me a bit of the 2007-2008 Canadiens.
If I be was a wild card team in the west, I’d much rather face the Canucks than Vegas, Dallas or Colorado.
Just early season impressions.

A bit of recency bias, I'd much rather take on the Avs right now, who are playing like dog feces. I think the 3 big dogs are Vegas, Vancouver and LA. The rest of the conference isn't that scary.

 

[Icebreakers]

So was Spencer Martin

Desmith has better career numbers than Demko.

 

[Petey But Really Jim]

I didn't claim that they should go balls to the wall every game. But last night's effort wasn't great. And tonight was against a middling team. Yes it was a back-to-back but it was also one for the Habs against an equal or arguably better team. So that's a wash.

My stance was always that I'm ok as long as we see progress. And we have for many points in the season. But this game and last seemed like regression. And yeah that was going to happen. But the weaknesses of the team were very clear this weekend. I stand by my assessment. We were lucky to get away with the dangerous and careless passes in the first 1.5 periods by what is normally our best d-pair. Myers was roaming all over the ice again. Juulsen was doing the same. Neither of the top two lines had energy and didn't seem willing to get in hard on the forecheck. Both games.

Before the best lines were humming and Hughes/Hronek was hot too. Now we see what happens when that isn't happening as much. And it shows that the team has a lot of issues in terms of depth especially on the blueline. On the other hand, they found a way to win. Still, this team still has a ways to go before they get benefit of the doubt. If they had lost this game as well then it would look like a very down weekend.

I think this is very fair and sober.

 

[wonton15]

It is a valid question.
I’m not gonna make a lot of friends here saying this but after having watched a few Canucks games and they give “good regular season team but will fall short come playoff time” vibe if I may be honest. Reminds me a bit of the 2007-2008 Canadiens.
If I be was a wild card team in the west, I’d much rather face the Canucks than Vegas, Dallas or Colorado.
Just early season impressions.

You’re not wrong. I can see our depth scoring really dry up in a tight playoff series, which compounds when Petey or Miller aren’t going. And as it stands now, one injury to any defenseman immediately puts in someone like Juulsen and moves Myers up.

 

[Grub]

Desmith has better career numbers than Demko.

I'm surprised with his numbers he never got the #1 Gig from any team.

 

[Petey But Really Jim]

You’re not wrong. I can see our depth scoring really dry up in a tight playoff series, which compounds when Petey or Miller aren’t going. And as it stands now, one injury to any defenseman immediately puts in someone like Juulsen and moves Myers up.

Thats a net - - - over only two transactions.

 

[Baby Pettersson]

It is a valid question.
I’m not gonna make a lot of friends here saying this but after having watched a few Canucks games and they give “good regular season team but will fall short come playoff time” vibe if I may be honest. Reminds me a bit of the 2007-2008 Canadiens.
If I be was a wild card team in the west, I’d much rather face the Canucks than Vegas, Dallas or Colorado.
Just early season impressions.

Lucky for us it's to early to make those observations!

 

[valkynax]

Casey flexing and readying for hockey

 

[Petey But Really Jim]

Casey flexing and readying for hockey

 

[wonton15]

Kuz is the team glue even if he isn’t producing as much lol

 

[Slapshot_11]

Any update on soucy?

 

[SopelFanThe3rd]

No idea why they sat Friedman.

 

[Baby Pettersson]

The boys are hammered!

 

[Cogburn]

No idea why they sat Friedman.

Juulsen was drafted by the Habs. I think that's it. Hoggy and Friedman would have feasted on the Habs this game, and yet Juulsen and Joshua were put in.

 

[SopelFanThe3rd]

Juulsen was drafted by the Habs. I think that's it. Hoggy and Friedman would have feasted on the Habs this game, and yet Juulsen and Joshua were put in.

I have no problem with Joshua. His line keeps getting better and better and they are all adding secondary scoring.

 

[Cogburn]

I have no problem with Joshua. His line keeps getting better and better and they are all adding secondary scoring.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Joshua, but Hoglanders speed and....trolliness....might have been a better fit for this game.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Any update on soucy?

Will be assessed in Vancouver.

Will probably labled DTD and "be close" and not return until St Pattys Day.

 

[Petey But Really Jim]

Will be assessed in Vancouver.

Will probably labled DTD and "be close" and not return until St Pattys Day.

Soucy? Not so soocy.