Seravalli: Giordano to be exposed to Seattle

[Pengu]

His play has fallen off a cliff in the last two season. Wins Norris at 35 and then his play imploded at warp speed.

I would not take him if i was Seattle even if exposed. He gives off end of career Gonchar vibes and he's very expensive.

Guy turns 38 before the season starts . Not a good investment imho.

'Completely agree. He's 38 and just like keith his play has nosedived and somehow because of nostalgia his last year in his career must be with the Flames
so let's spend assets keeping a player no longer worth his cap hit....

Don't be stupid like the Oilers....

 

[buffalowing88]

If Seattle takes him CGY needs to be prepared to take on some salary retention.

 

[Pengu]

Which makes it likely that Seattle won't take him as the Flames won't retain

 

[DFF]

His play has fallen off a cliff in the last two season. Wins Norris at 35 and then his play imploded at warp speed.

I would not take him if i was Seattle even if exposed. He gives off end of career Gonchar vibes and he's very expensive.

Guy turns 38 before the season starts . Not a good investment imho.

He is no longer Norris material but don’t kid yourself. He is still a solid player.Only one year left in the contract. Good candidate for a decent return at the TDL.

 

[DFF]

Could the agent for Gio just tell Seattle he will retire if they select him?

except he is still too good to retire

 

[DFF]

If Seattle takes him CGY needs to be prepared to take on some salary retention.

Nope , they’d be as happy if Seattle takes someone else

 

[serp]

He is no longer Norris material but don’t kid yourself. He is still a solid player.Only one year left in the contract. Good candidate for a decent return at the TDL.

There will be better options available from the Flames for an expansion team than a soon to 38 year old who costs nearly 7 million and whose play took a big nosedive the last few seasons.

 

[DFF]

There will be better options available from the Flames for an expansion team than a soon to 38 year old who costs nearly 7 million and whose play took a big nosedive the last few seasons.

We’ll see. He had one year left and as I said he is still a solid top 4 dman

 

[treple13]

There will be better options available from the Flames for an expansion team than a soon to 38 year old who costs nearly 7 million and whose play took a big nosedive the last few seasons.

Not really. A nosedive from a Norris winner to a 3/4 guy still makes him the most valuable piece to flip for Seattle. The only other real option (Kylington) went through waivers last year

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Not really. A nosedive from a Norris winner to a 3/4 guy still makes him the most valuable piece to flip for Seattle. The only other real option (Kylington) went through waivers last year

There are folks on our team boards who want Kylington but to me Gio just makes sense. He should help the team when on the ice and should help us more at the TDL when we retain on him and flip him for some assets.

 

[serp]

Not really. A nosedive from a Norris winner to a 3/4 guy still makes him the most valuable piece to flip for Seattle. The only other real option (Kylington) went through waivers last year

Who is the best exposed forward ? Simon ?

 

[Double Dion]

There are folks on our team boards who want Kylington but to me Gio just makes sense. He should help the team when on the ice and should help us more at the TDL when we retain on him and flip him for some assets.

I agree with you. There is zero chance Seattle doesn't take Giordano if he's exposed and there's no side deal. All these people saying he's a 3/4 are delusional. His coach called him the best player on the team, analytics say him and Tanev when paired together were a top 3 pairing in the league. But some dudes bloodshot drunken eyes think he's a 4. Andersson was the guy who drug Giordano down. You can't put a #5 defenseman on the top pairing against McDavid, Schiefele, Matthews ect and expect it to be successful.

 

[Vitto79]

So he’s a goner and flipped at some point unless traded

 

[Opado]

I mean, Seattle could flip him at trade deadline to a contender for 1st and prospect. Why not.

 

[treple13]

Who is the best exposed forward ? Simon ?

Best is Lucic who won't be taken for obvious reasons.

 

[613Leafer]

....They can't trade him for an asset? He only has one year left, and the Flames are supposed be retooling. Surely somebody would take him with some salary retention.

Seems like a no brainer. 50% salary retention, many teams would want Giordano for a ~3.375 caphit. Maybe ownership has no interest in paying the other 50% just to get some draft picks or whatever the trade value would be.

 

[CraigsList]

Seems like a no brainer. 50% salary retention, many teams would want Giordano for a ~3.375 caphit. Maybe ownership has no interest in paying the other 50% just to get some draft picks or whatever the trade value would be.

I think 50% is a bit much, but would someone take him at 25%? That’s a $5,062,500 cap hit.

 

[blankall]

Seems like a no brainer. 50% salary retention, many teams would want Giordano for a ~3.375 caphit. Maybe ownership has no interest in paying the other 50% just to get some draft picks or whatever the trade value would be.

If Giordano is being moved, it's probably to make room for someone else. Retaining makes not sense for the Flames. The only reason to retain would be if the strategy is to blow it up now. If Gaudreau and Tkachuk have made it clear they don't want to stick around, that could be a possibility.

 

[613Leafer]

If Giordano is being moved, it's probably to make room for someone else. Retaining makes not sense for the Flames. The only reason to retain would be if the strategy is to blow it up now. If Gaudreau and Tkachuk have made it clear they don't want to stick around, that could be a possibility.

They should be retooling/rebuilding. So if they're worried about retaining a ~3.4M caphit next season because they want to spend near the cap to try to contend for a Stanley Cup, then that's a problem.

 

[Volica]

Who is the best exposed forward ? Simon ?

RFA: Simon
UFA: Doc Ryan
Signed: Milan Lucic

 

[inactive user]

Does Seattle take him?

 

[viper0220]

Is this really how they're going to lose their franchise icon and captain? I get that he's old now but that'd be a shame.

He has done jack shit, it is time to get out of this mentality.

 

[blankall]

They should be retooling/rebuilding. So if they're worried about retaining a ~3.4M caphit next season because they want to spend near the cap to try to contend for a Stanley Cup, then that's a problem.

Either way I don't see ownership paying $3 million to get an extra 3rd out of a Giordano trade. There are very few teams that have available retention spots to take on Giordano...so a trade is probably not happening anyways.

 

[Some Other Flame]

Who is the best exposed forward ? Simon ?

Forwards: Philips, Ryan, Lucic
Defensemen: Giordano, Kylington

Giordano's the best NHL'er of the bunch and it's not particularly close. But if Francis wants potential, then it's Kylington and Philips.

 

[93LEAFS]

Forwards: Philips, Ryan, Lucic
Defensemen: Giordano, Kylington

Giordano's the best NHL'er of the bunch and it's not particularly close. But if Francis wants potential, then it's Kylington and Philips.

You can probably take Giordano, and flip him at the deadline with 50% retention at the deadline for better futures.