Seravalli: Giordano to be exposed to Seattle

[rt]

If Seattle selects Giordano (and I believe they would be smart to do so), I wonder if Calgary and Arizona would consider swapping Milan Lucic and Oliver Ekman-Larsson.

 

[Some Other Flame]

If Seattle selects Giordano (and I believe they would be smart to do so), I wonder if Calgary and Arizona would consider swapping Milan Lucic and Oliver Ekman-Larsson.

Dunno if Lucic would waive for Arizona but could definitely see Treliving/Malroney having interest in OEL.

What about

Monahan for Kessel (50% retained)
Dube + Valimaki for Dvorak
Lucic + Kylington for OEL

 

[Conbon]

Just another star the Flames held for too long and now getting a terrible return/nothing. Iginla all over again.

 

[Rubi]

You can probably take Giordano, and flip him at the deadline with 50% retention at the deadline for better futures.

I suspect thats exactly what will happen. Gio is still a legit top 4 dman. Maybe not 1st line on a lot of clubs but definitely 2nd line. He had a rocky start when he started the season paired with Andersson but once Sutter paired him with Tanev he turned his game around.

 

[Volica]

Just another star the Flames held for too long and now getting a terrible return/nothing. Iginla all over again.

The Flames premise of
"We got close to something a while back, let's see if this group can do it again" is both agitating and infuriating.

 

[Rubi]

Just another star the Flames held for too long and now getting a terrible return/nothing. Iginla all over again.

Always tough to cut loose a lifelong Flame who's also team captain..... just like Iggy.
I was for trading Iggy long before the Flames did but I understand perfectly those that were reluctant to do so. Same holds true for Gio. Heart and soul... heart and soul.... and loyalty. Not everything comes down to dollars and cents.

 

[rt]

Dunno if Lucic would waive for Arizona but could definitely see Treliving/Malroney having interest in OEL.

What about

Monahan for Kessel (50% retained)
Dube + Valimaki for Dvorak
Lucic + Kylington for OEL

Absolutely hell no on the Dvorak piece.

 

[Conbon]

Always tough to cut loose a lifelong Flame who's also team captain..... just like Iggy.
I was for trading Iggy long before the Flames did but I understand perfectly those that were reluctant to do so. Same holds true for Gio. Heart and soul... heart and soul.... and loyalty. Not everything comes down to dollars and cents.

Problem is, a quality return for a player like that would give us a chance to crawl out of our constant mediocrity. Sometimes tough decisions need to be made, especially in the cap era.

 

[Rubi]

Problem is, a quality return for a player like that would give us a chance to crawl out of our constant mediocrity. Sometimes tough decisions need to be made, especially in the cap era.

I understand what you are saying but to trade someone who has been a member of the Flames for 14+ seasons and captain for 8 of those seasons... I think some people almost forget how long Gio has been a Flame and thats not something that is very common in the NHL these days. As far as I'm concerned trading Gio is only an option if he asks for it or your back is against the wall such as it is in the ED.

 

[Conbon]

I understand what you are saying but to trade someone who has been a member of the Flames for 14+ seasons and captain for 8 of those seasons... I think some people almost forget how long Gio has been a Flame and thats not something that is very common in the NHL these days. As far as I'm concerned trading Gio is only an option if he asks for it or your back is against the wall such as it is in the ED.

Its not an option anymore but the past few years before the drop off when this team was going nowhere we could have recouped something of value. Now the team is going nowhere and he is being exposed in expansion.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

A former Norris winner for free? Seattle would be silly not to jump on this.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

If Seattle selects Giordano (and I believe they would be smart to do so), I wonder if Calgary and Arizona would consider swapping Milan Lucic and Oliver Ekman-Larsson.

Hell yes.

 

[Rubi]

Hell yes.

Thats a lot of extra contract and a lot of extra term to take on.

Lucic is owed $5.25M AAV for the next 2 years.
OEL, who turns 30 tomorrow, is owed $8.25M AAV for the next 6 years.

Do you really think he's worth it? I don't.

 

[Harvey Birdman]

Its not an option anymore but the past few years before the drop off when this team was going nowhere we could have recouped something of value. Now the team is going nowhere and he is being exposed in expansion.

It’s a fine line. Team loyalty/Player loyalty vs Trade value/Negotiation leverage. It’s hard to walk that line to the ideal place for all parties. I’m not a Flames fan, but with my team. After the second of the back to back cup wins, it was probably an ideal time and place to trade Malkin. And I say that with him being my favorite player. I hope at this point he retires a Penguin, but for the betterment of the team 2018 would’ve been an ideal place to move him. So I can feel with your opinions and stances but there is a balance. It’s just rarely ever hit on the bullseye.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Thats a lot of extra contract and a lot of extra term to take on.

Lucic is owed $5.25M AAV for the next 2 years.
OEL, who turns 30 tomorrow, is owed $8.25M AAV for the next 6 years.

Do you really think he's worth it? I don't.

If Gio gets picked off, yes I would do it.

 

[Conbon]

It’s a fine line. Team loyalty/Player loyalty vs Trade value/Negotiation leverage. It’s hard to walk that line to the ideal place for all parties. I’m not a Flames fan, but with my team. After the second of the back to back cup wins, it was probably an ideal time and place to trade Malkin. And I say that with him being my favorite player. I hope at this point he retires a Penguin, but for the betterment of the team 2018 would’ve been an ideal place to move him. So I can feel with your opinions and stances but there is a balance. It’s just rarely ever hit on the bullseye.

Difference is Malkin actually accomplished something with you guys. We even let Maccinis leave a few years after he won a Smythe with us. Nowadays you have to move on. There's very few players that stay with one team anymore. When you have so few stars like the Flames you tend to get attached to the ones you have even if its to your detriment.