Getzlaf + Kucherov vs Thornton + Pastrnak

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Which wing-center super duo would be better ?

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[Montreal Shadow]

Curious but why these duos? What do they have in common?

I think I’ll go with Getzlaf and Kucherov.

Thornton at his best was probably a level above Getzlaf but Getzlaf was a significantly better playoff performer. Both huge, primarily playmaking, and defensively sound centers. That said, Thornton was still a better player than Getzlaf overall.

Kucherov has been the 2nd or 3rd best offensive player in the league for a number of years and arguably the best playoff performer of the past decade. Pastrnak is definitely no slouch but I think it’s clearly Kucherov here.

 

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Curious but why these duos? What do they have in common?

I think I’ll go with Getzlaf and Kucherov.

Thornton at his best was probably a level above Getzlaf but Getzlaf was a significantly better playoff performer. Both huge, primarily playmaking, and defensively sound centers. That said, Thornton was still a better player than Getzlaf overall.

Kucherov has be the 2nd or 3rd best offensive player in the league for a number of years and arguably the best playoff performer of the past decade. Pastrnak is definitely no slouch but I think it’s clearly Kucherov here.

Thanks for the question , Montreal Shadow

I chose these two players because I figured it was a even balanced matchup and I wanted to bring old two great centers from the Cali teams back and I picked two top current wingers to match them

 

[Bouboumaster]

Voted for Thornton and Pasta

I think that

Kucherov >=Thornton > Pasta > Getzlaf

And also, Thornton and Pasta complete each other very well

 

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Voted for Thornton and Pasta

I think that

Kucherov >=Thornton > Pasta > Getzlaf

And also, Thornton and Pasta complete each other very well

Always appreciate when posters explain their thesis, cheers Boubs

 

[GeoRox89]

Regular season: Jumbo - Pasta
Debatable who is the better player between Jumbo and Kuch but do prefer Pasta to Getzlaf

Playoffs: Kuch - Getzlaf
Kuch is clearly the best playoff performer of the lot by a notable amount and that tips the scales for me

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Thornton feeding Pastrnak would be unfair

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

It’s interesting that Jumbo is getting a bit more ‘love’ than Getzlaf. I think taking out my bias as a Ducks fan I would take Getz over Jumbo every day of the week.

 

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Great poll.

I choose the 2nd group as Thornton is easily the better center and comparable to Kucherov. I also see the chemistry being better as it’s a more traditional playmaker and sniper duo.

 

[authentic]

Getzlaf and Kucherov for me as I feel Thornton never really elevated his game like he should have in the playoffs.

 

[HFpapi]

I think Kuch + Getz are better as the sum of their parts because Kuch = Jumbo for regular season peak + basically the same signature season (125 vs 128 points, Hart + Ross in both cases) but Kucherov is having a second signature season and blows Thornton away in playoffs.

Pasta likely has the better career on paper but Getz is the guy I build a franchise around in actuality. Big, mean, skilled #1 C.

In terms of actual on ice fit, I think Joe feeding Pasta makes way more sense than two puck dominant players who both look to pass first.

So overall as a pair I like Kuch and Getz and as an actual fit on a line I like Pasta/Joe.

Really don't know how to vote here.

It's a tough poll.

 

[GlitchMarner]

It’s interesting that Jumbo is getting a bit more ‘love’ than Getzlaf. I think taking out my bias as a Ducks fan I would take Getz over Jumbo every day of the week.

I mean, Thornton's career is clearly better. He has the Hart and Art Ross and was a top five scorer a number of times (more often than Getz). He was a dominant centre for a long time and he had all the attributes and abilities that Getzlaf possessed (size, strength, reach, playmaking ability, vision, two-way play).

If we're choosing one for a playoff run, though, Getz probably is the better choice.

 

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I mean, Thornton's career is clearly better. He has the Hart and Art Ross and was a top five scorer a number of times (more often than Getz). He was a dominant centre for a long time and he had all the attributes and abilities that Getzlaf possessed (size, strength, reach, playmaking ability, vision, two-way play).

If we're choosing one for a playoff run, though, Getz probably is the better choice.

Your profile picture.. its amazing. I'm not sure why i find it so intriguing but it really caught my eye

 

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@MS I know we've had our hiccups but I would love your analysis on this , and I'm honestly trying to be more of a quality poster now

Thanks

 

[Regal]

I think Kuch + Getz are better as the sum of their parts because Kuch = Jumbo for regular season peak + basically the same signature season (125 vs 128 points, Hart + Ross in both cases) but Kucherov is having a second signature season and blows Thornton away in playoffs.

Pasta likely has the better career on paper but Getz is the guy I build a franchise around in actuality. Big, mean, skilled #1 C.

In terms of actual on ice fit, I think Joe feeding Pasta makes way more sense than two puck dominant players who both look to pass first.

So overall as a pair I like Kuch and Getz and as an actual fit on a line I like Pasta/Joe.

Really don't know how to vote here.

It's a tough poll.

That’s basically what I was thinking as well

 

[Fledgemyhedge]

I honestly don’t know. Which means it’s a pretty solid poll. Well done @Coffee.

I think I’d go with Jumbo and Pasta just because I like them more together. Thornton setting up pasta would be nuts

 

[Master P]

Always liked Getzlaf.

I remember back in the day I always wandered what a line of Getzlaf - Malkin - Nash would have looked like.

 

[The Macho King]

Kucherov and Getzlaf would be annoying as hell overpassing.

 

[SillyRabbit]

People underrating prime Joe Thornton.

 

[CanadienShark]

I think the gap between Thornton and Getzlaf is bigger than the one between Kucherov and Pastrnak.

Thornton + Pasta for me.

 

[Ivo]

Cheechoo scored 56 goals in a season playing with Thornton. How many would Pasta score?

 

[I am not exposed]

Cheechoo scored 56 goals in a season playing with Thornton. How many would Pasta score?

55

 

[Gurglesons]

Kinda surprised people are taking Getzlaf and Kucherov over Thornton and Pasta.

Kucherov peak season 128 pts
Pasta peak season 112 pts.

Getzlaf peak season 91 pts.
Thornton peak season 125 pts.

Kucherov has played with top tier offensive talent. Pasta never has.

 

[Regal]

Kinda surprised people are taking Getzlaf and Kucherov over Thornton and Pasta.

Kucherov peak season 128 pts
Pasta peak season 112 pts.

Getzlaf peak season 91 pts.
Thornton peak season 125 pts.

Kucherov has played with top tier offensive talent. Pasta never has.

There’s a lot more to it than just career highs. League scoring makes the gap between Thornton and Getzlaf look bigger than it was. Getzlaf finished 2nd in league scoring in his best year. Thornton was still the better regular season player, but he was never able to perform in the playoffs like his regular seasons, while Getzlaf’s numbers are much better there.

Kucherov also has the playoff advantage over Pasta. Plus his 18-19 season was lower scoring than last year, and this year he has a considerable advantage as well. Bergeron and Marchand were great linemates. Regular season is closer here but still Kucherov. And playoffs is Kucherov by a larger gap.

Thornton and Pasta probably work better as a duo, and if it’s the regular season, probably a better combo overall. Taking two of them to play either together or on separate lines in the playoffs though, and it’s pretty hard not to take Getzlaf and Kucherov

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Getzlaf was a shutdown two way C. Thornton never had the two way game.

Getzlaf is the most underrated player of his generation.