OT: General UFC/MMA/Boxing discussion VII

[Skip Bayless]

Mario "if she dies, she dies" Yamasaki

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

You really need tip-top speed and reflexes to fight with a karate based style. Now that he's older, Machida just doesn't have the crispness on his kicks anymore nor the quickness to exploit the openings.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Dana White: Mario Yamasaki should 'never set foot in octagon again' after Shevchenko-Cachoeira
Dana not mincing words on Yamazaki. It's one of the few occasions where the fact that he's a loud mouth d-bag is actually useful.

 

[TRG]

Yamazaki has been a shit ref forever.

 

[LyricalLyricist]

Brock though went to the UFC after his WWE debut though. Rousey does the opposite. You can't tell me those girls can actually beat her for real. My guess is there will be a lot of interference and cheating down against her in order for her to lose. Making her lose a one on one "fair and square"...not gonna happen.

It's such a weird situation. If they make Ronda demolish people it kind of gives the whole "Well, UFC fighters are more tough than our hard nosed, free for all wrestlers" a bit.

I don't think WWE is stupid enough to go full Goldberg with this but if they make fights competitive(with Ronda winning) I think it's best. It can't be a landslide, it would hurt their own brand.

It's different with Brock because he was a beast before he went to UFC so it was just like "yah, we knew".

 

[Kriss E]

It's such a weird situation. If they make Ronda demolish people it kind of gives the whole "Well, UFC fighters are more tough than our hard nosed, free for all wrestlers" a bit.

I don't think WWE is stupid enough to go full Goldberg with this but if they make fights competitive(with Ronda winning) I think it's best. It can't be a landslide, it would hurt their own brand.

It's different with Brock because he was a beast before he went to UFC so it was just like "yah, we knew".

Ronda has to lose. I think it would be pointless for her to win. I mean, everyone knows she can beat everyone of those girls in a flash. Not taking anything away from the other girls, they are athletes in my book, but as stuntgirls not professional fighters.
They need Ronda to lose otherwise it's too predictable and lame, but they can't actually make her lose fair and square one on one, so some type of interference or illegal move needs to happen. At least that is how I see it go down.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

UFC discussing CM Punk vs. Mike Jackson for Chicago pay-per-view in June
Speaking of pro wrestling, CM Punk's could get another UFC fight in June. Dana said he'd never do it but he probably figured Punk will easily sell some tickets in his hometown.

 

[LyricalLyricist]

UFC discussing CM Punk vs. Mike Jackson for Chicago pay-per-view in June
Speaking of pro wrestling, CM Punk's could get another UFC fight in June. Dana said he'd never do it but he probably figured Punk will easily sell some tickets in his hometown.

Dana changed his mind a long time ago actually.

 

[MD thaivuN]

a pro rassler vs a photograph/journalist. it's a fair fight, book it

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

a pro rassler vs a photograph/journalist. it's a fair fight, book it

It's about the closest we'll ever get to a fair fight for Punk ! Jackson trained in boxing and kickboxing so I'd still give him the edge in that one though . Punk did survive about a minute longer versus Gall than he did now that I think about it, for what it's worth.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

UFC 221 weigh-in results: Yoel Romero comes in heavy, 187.7 on second attempt
Yoel couldn't make the cut (shocking !) so only Rockhold will get the interim belt with a win. An already ridiculously unworthy of being a PPV card gets even weaker. I sure am glad I'm not paying. Expect 200k buys for this one, tops.

 

[TRG]

I'm not a Romero fan but I still hope he KOs Rockhold. What an arrogant prick.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I'm not a Romero fan but I still hope he KOs Rockhold. What an arrogant prick.

I don't really know who I got in that fight honestly . Rockhold has a superb ground game but Romero is an Olympic level wrestler and hard as hell to get down and keep there. On their feet, Rockhold is a lot more polished and technical but Romero is all kinds of weird and hard to read, plus he's got those explosive flying knees that he can throw out of nowhere. Anything can happen.

 

[TRG]

I don't really know who I got in that fight honestly . Rockhold has a superb ground game but Romero is an Olympic level wrestler and hard as hell to get down and keep there. On their feet, Rockhold is a lot more polished and technical but Romero is all kinds of weird and hard to read, plus he's got those explosive flying knees that he can throw out of nowhere. Anything can happen.

At the same time, he got KO'd by Michael f***ing Bisping.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

At the same time, he got KO'd by Michael ****ing Bisping.

In his defense, it was a bit of a lucky shot that caught him as he was backing away. He just never saw it coming.

 

[TRG]

In his defense, it was a bit of a lucky shot that caught him as he was backing away. He just never saw it coming.

Agree. But what transpired of that fight is he can underestimate opponents because he thinks he's the shit. And I mean, he's really good.

That said, I don't remember being impressed by his performance vs Branch. I don't remember why though so it's not a valid argument

 

[MD thaivuN]

I think Rockhold has a suspect chin. He doesn't get hit clean on the head a lot, but when he's been hit, he's certainly showed it. The kind of thing Romero will likely capitalize, especially since Rockhold's speed is pretty one-note

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I think Rockhold has a suspect chin. He doesn't get hit clean on the head a lot, but when he's been hit, he's certainly showed it. The kind of thing Romero will likely capitalize, especially since Rockhold's speed is pretty one-note

Well, he does have a very pretty face, it figures he doesn't like having it damaged

 

[MD thaivuN]

we're seeing an influx of terrifying power grapplers with killer ground & pound. Usman, Volkanovski, Bektic, Gillespie... these are the guys everyone will duck.

the meta game in elite MMA in the last years has been the Striker with dedicated takedown defense and getups. the meta might be shifting to power ground game.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

we're seeing an influx of terrifying power grapplers with killer ground & pound. Usman, Volkanovski, Bektic, Gillespie... these are the guys everyone will duck.

the meta game in elite MMA in the last years has been the Striker with dedicated takedown defense and getups. the meta might be shifting to power ground game.

Don't forget Khabib ! His performance against Barboza was the best display of ground and pound I've seen since a young Fedor and he was arguably the best ever at this.

 

[MD thaivuN]

Adesanya is a guy to look for. legit kickboxing skills and background.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Wilkinson is smartly keeping it in the clinch.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Man, if Adesanya can round his game out a little he could be the real deal. Those are some HEAVY strikes, nasty stuff.

 

[MD thaivuN]

Adesanya looks like a more focused version of MVP, without the idiotic dancing and with good fundamentals.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Goofie dude, he could be a fan favorite in a hurry