Rumor: Garrioch: Ken King Moving On
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He didn't elucidate it that far, but yeah okay, his comment seems to be along those lines. The exact quote:
Although, one could argue that by trading the teams best forward, its best defensemen and likely losing their best goalie to retirement, while accumulating multiple first round draft picks in favour of NHL ready prospects, it constitutes a scorched earth policy, particularly if any or all of Tanguay, Cammalleri, Jackman, Wideman, and Stajan are moved in the off season.
And Feaster's disingenuity with regards to calling it a rebuild doesn't do him any favors. Nor his blind belief that the team was a legitimate playoff contender. Now, if one suggests that he only said those things because he was forced to and that they were in accordance with the demands of Edwards, well, that's not exactly complimentary either. Who wants a puppet for a GM?
In the end, he's either a sad little puppet, or a wholly incompetent, lumbering fool that thought a small, skilled and generally soft team can compete in the big, tough and gritty Western conference. And then there's the ROR debacle and the failure to get a written list of teams from Iginla. Really, the only facet in which Flames have shown a significant improvement in is drafting and Weisbrod's in charge of that. And with his idiotic comments every so often, he can't even be a good PR front.
Nordberg
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Hot damn. I must've not gotten the memo.
This draft is looking to me like it's going to be the most important in team history. Feaster really doesn't inspire much confidence these days. I only hope we'll be okay.
TheHudlinator
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Like I said Feaster doesn't want to simply sit by and watch his team constantly lose. He doesn't believe in rebuilding trough a decade of suck. Personally I agree with him, it is pretty clear we are going to use this draft to try and get some real talent, and the prospects he targeted are mostly nhl ready which leads me to believe that with a few UFA signings we will be trying to make the playoffs again next year.
The Flames should be trying to make the playoffs next year, but under no circumstances should it be 'playoffs or bust,' as it was in previous years, particularly under D.Sutter.
No team actually rebuilds for ten years; that just doesn't happen. What actually occurs is a 2-4 years of delusion, where the organization refuses to accept what it actually is, but instead continues to try and go for it. It's only after that do that initiate changes, at which point, they need 3-5 years for the actual accumulation of top tier talent, and the necessary depth to field a winner.
And the thing is, the Flames have already missed the playoffs for 3 straight years. They're on their way to a fourth, while only now initiating changes. Barring several miraculous developments and additions, the Flames are not going to make the playoffs next year, especially with the new conference structure. And most likely, not the year after either. So that's 5-6 years of no playoffs. And it's quite possible that it takes even longer for the Flames to actually get better, since there's no guarantee all the prospects they pick pan out.
I don't disagree with the Feaster's most recent sentiments, I just don't see how he, given his reputation and record as the GM in Calgary, can remain on the job especially where there are so many better candidates out there.
Ace Rimmer
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I have a feeling Ken King isn't leaving the organization. I could see him being named president of the "Calgary Flames Sports Media Partnership" or whatever it winds up being called, overseeing the Flames, Hitmen, Roughnecks, Stampeders, etc.
Lunatik
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Garrioch "reporting" this really means its just a fabrication on the part of Garrioch. Biggest hack in sports journalism. I cannot fathom the dirt he has over his bosses to still have a job.YES! This is the best day all year
Hopefully Feaster takes King's spot and we bring in Burke.
Lunatik
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Feaster has also said he didn't want to label it as a rebuild because of the stigma it has because of recent years in Edmonton. Which is why he was trying to give it different label.
As for the confidence people have in him right now, I think the problem was a combination the media and the NMCs. The media raised expectations on possible returns, but the NMCs and short lists that came with them reduced the value. When it comes to the draft Feaster seems pretty hands off, he has said that is the day for Weisbrod and his scouting staff to shine.
Not me.
I hope King moves further to the business side of things and oversees the Flames sports conglomerate, which would keep him further from day to day Flames operations but still see the Flames (as well as the Stamps, Roughnecks and Hitmen) benefit from him business smarts.
I think King deserves more respect than he gets, I truly believe without him coming into the fold the Calgary Flames would not exist today.
Backlund
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If we do keep King I want him as far away from the Flames as possible. He is a good businessman but a terrible hockey person.
Lunatik
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except there is no actual proof King is getting involved in the GMs duties. It's just pure speculation.
YES! This is the best day all year
Hopefully Feaster takes King's spot and we bring in Burke.
Stop.
Rumour is burke to dallas.
And thank god for that. He is a horrible gm.
Ignorance is bliss. Just because you tell yourself something doesn't mean it's true.
Burke is and would be a better GM than Feaster and Sutter.
Shawnofthedeadz
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I agree, don't know where the Burke love came from all of a sudden on these boards but I do not want him running the Flames.
I live in toronto and lived here throughout his tenure. Namea move he made other than gardiner trade that really benefitted the rebuild in toronto. Funny thing is, when toronto was losing and getting lottery picks, burke thought he was icing a winning team (hence the kessel trade). The guy is a disaster.
The thing that has bothered me about King is the amount of support he gave past failure. I don't think he was involved in hockey moves but he was one of the first to defend past moves that crippled this team. That being said he is a great business man in selling his product but over the last few years I just find myself thinking this guy really needs to shut up whenever he opens his mouth. He's kind of full of ****.
Ace Rimmer
Stoke me a clipper.
One thing to remember - before King arrived here, this organization was in shambles - both the business and hockey aspects of the team. (The Flames nearly moved to Oklahoma City for crying out loud.
While he's not done much to help (or hurt) the hockey side, he's completely turned around the business side of the organization. (yes, a stronger dollar has helped)
If King is leaving, it is because he wants to leave. Or it's because he's getting a promotion as I mentioned earlier.
Or it's just Garrioch telling stories again.
While he's not done much to help (or hurt) the hockey side, he's completely turned around the business side of the organization. (yes, a stronger dollar has helped)
If King is leaving, it is because he wants to leave. Or it's because he's getting a promotion as I mentioned earlier.
Or it's just Garrioch telling stories again.
TheHudlinator
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Must suck, built the Canucks,Leafs, and won the cup in Anaheim yea looks terrible.
The leafs are a real contender.
Only impressive thing he ever did was land both sedins.
Lunatik
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Do you expect him to just trash his GM and other personnel? He has to maintain a public image and not defending moves (even if he dislikes them) is something he has to do.
Also what salesman isn't full of ****? It's basically #1 in their job description.
Johnny Hoxville
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Burke would make Feaster his ***** if he was his boss. Burke can do both jobs IMO.
Burke would arguably be the best GM the Flames have ever had. One thing would be clear in that the man would have an actual plan.
Also, congrats on becoming a MOD Stewie. You'll do a great job!
Burke would arguably be the best GM the Flames have ever had. One thing would be clear in that the man would have an actual plan.
Also, congrats on becoming a MOD Stewie. You'll do a great job!
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There is proof. At least if you consider King and Feaster's word proof. Both outright said King and Edwards were very involved in the decision to move Iginla.
InfinityIggy
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Very true. Doesn't mean he should stay though.
You can say similar things about Sutter when he arrived as coach, and slowly things went downhill. Kind of how I feel about King at this point.
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