Nikishin Go Boom
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Rumor: Garland Trade? | Update: Getting Closer? #439
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Frankie Blueberries
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You are responding to a poster who argued Lafreniere played centre because, in a description of a photograph showing Lafreniere, he was in the middle of 3 players and they referenced him as the centre player. He would not admit he was wrong. Lol.
Peter Griffin
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Jesus I forgot who that was. Makes sense now.
Cancuks
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It was Gretzky who first said that Lafreniere projects as a Centre in the NHL but then some brainiac on these boards said they were smarter than Gretzky.
Then it was Larionov who said that Podkolzin projects as a Centre in the NHL but then some brainiac on these boards said they were smarter than Larionov.
The fact that the Abby Canucks coach said they may try to work Podkolzin in at centre shouldn't defer the brainiacs that haunt this place.
Your buddy spokbokk went on and on about how Kotkaneimi had turned the corner...great last half of year blah blah blah but really, as a 2C he is not very good.
On most teams Kotkaneimi would project as a 3C, which is where he should be playing, but they would be paying him around 5M for 7 years for a 3C which probably means his contract has a negative value playing that far down the lineup.
Then it was Larionov who said that Podkolzin projects as a Centre in the NHL but then some brainiac on these boards said they were smarter than Larionov.
The fact that the Abby Canucks coach said they may try to work Podkolzin in at centre shouldn't defer the brainiacs that haunt this place.
Your buddy spokbokk went on and on about how Kotkaneimi had turned the corner...great last half of year blah blah blah but really, as a 2C he is not very good.
On most teams Kotkaneimi would project as a 3C, which is where he should be playing, but they would be paying him around 5M for 7 years for a 3C which probably means his contract has a negative value playing that far down the lineup.
spockBokk
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Please point out where I go on and on.
What you don’t want to admit is the fact you originally got called out for using crappy sources as fact and then doubled down on them, looking quite foolish. Something you seem quite good at.
OG Eberle
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i don't think you fully understand what "unsustainable" means my guy...
MarkusNaslund19
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lol.
Man alive, you just double down and double down.
Gretzky said that Vitali Yachmenev would score 50 goals one day in the NHL and the brainiacs on this board would have said (were the boards around at that time) that that’s ridiculous.
Yachmenev is now like 55 years old but I guess you’re still steadfastly holding onto that concept too? Or is it possible that Gretzky’s opinion is fallible and your occasionally incorrect too?
Buresflyingelbow
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Does he come back on the flight from Nashville tomorrow or just jump into the other dressing room? He seems like a perfect Nashville Predator.
So Vancouver is forced to make and very likely lose a trade because of an unhappy player? Great way to lose control of your organization.
How much retention is Vancouver willing to eat to move Garland. I just don't see him moving without retention. His contract is not good.
Reports are the Canucks are willing to retain up to 30%
trellaine201
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Not in a vacuum but with cap space so tight and wingers so cheap he’s not worth much. Canucks have too many wingers.
Hence the rumors that he’s moveable with a chunk of salary retained.
He will go on whatever timeline makes sense for the team. If he can’t handle that then the only place he needs to go is home to pout away from everyone else.
I don’t say that to be cruel. It’s just the reality of his situation that he can either play on the Canucks and wait for a trade or he can sit at home and wait. Canucks can’t afford to waste cap because a guy is miffed.
Yup. I often take Gretzky's opinions on individual players with a grain of salt. He's very complimentary, to the point where his takes are often far fetched.
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I’m thinking if that’s the case the return would need to be decent. Either a younger right side D with top four potential or a pick (second or third rounder) so the other 70% of Garland’s cap is gone.
Lol. There's been zero reports of him "pouting" or being an issue in the locker room. Some Canuck fans ate attacking the kid because his agent has received permission to talk to other teams. This comes after a solid year of him being in trade rumors. You don't think the team trying to get rid of him for a year has an effect on his desire to play for the team?
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I think he’s handled it fine. It’s a lousy situation to be the odd guy out and he’s still doing his job.
I’m saying the Canucks will try to facilitate a trade but they aren’t going to f*** their cap to get him traded. Not more than they have to.
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Nona Di Giuseppe
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in 25-26 season they have a 4.8 mil dead cap hit for OEL do you want to add another $1.5-$2mil to that. how are you planning on sign petterson and putting a team that has a shot at the playoffs. hard to compete when you salary cap is 6.5 mil less then everybody else.
Some boxes need to be checked off before a Garland trade is to happen:
-Mikhayev getting games in and showing he is healthy for the top 6 ( 1 game in )
- Replacement wingers within the system need to show they can play a bottom 6 role - Studnicka has looked decent. Bains has 7 pts in 4 games in the AHL, Podkolzin has 5 pts and 4 goals in 4 AHL games. Aman 5 pts in 4 AHL games. ( Check)
-Canucks need to be willing to retain ( Check)
I think the Canucks likely have offers they are mulling over and are just waiting a week or 2 to let Mikhayev get some games under him without any setback.
I'd speculate that Garland gets moved well before American Thanksgiving.
-Mikhayev getting games in and showing he is healthy for the top 6 ( 1 game in )
- Replacement wingers within the system need to show they can play a bottom 6 role - Studnicka has looked decent. Bains has 7 pts in 4 games in the AHL, Podkolzin has 5 pts and 4 goals in 4 AHL games. Aman 5 pts in 4 AHL games. ( Check)
-Canucks need to be willing to retain ( Check)
I think the Canucks likely have offers they are mulling over and are just waiting a week or 2 to let Mikhayev get some games under him without any setback.
I'd speculate that Garland gets moved well before American Thanksgiving.
