Seravalli: Garland is a "free asset", teams want assets to take him

[Hunter368]

Jets could be interested, I like Garland

 

[Djp]

Jets’ Pierre-Luc Dubois rockets to No. 1 on latest Trade Targets board

Dubois and Alex DeBrincat are following the precedent set last summer when Matthew Tkachuk forced a trade.

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I think the "negative value" reputation Garland has is wildly undeserved, he's a much better player than a negative asset IMO. But it seems like all other teams know how much the Canucks want to move him, so the Canucks have no leverage. Where does he end up?

understand…you have about 15 teams who have a few players with salaries of around $3.5M-$5.5M with 1-3 yrs left who they would like to movie to create cap space.

of the teams with cap space you have two kinds….the rebuilding one and the contending ones. The rebuilding ones are going to ask for sweeteners. The contending teams, there aren’t many of them, they see some 40 or so players out there that teams are looking to trade.
then there are the UFAs they could sign for free.
teams aren’t betting what the cap will be in 2 years.

garland is going to be hard to move.

 

[Hoglander]

I don't really get the blame for Garland's play, being put on the team. When he's on his game, he's a good player that is buzzing around the ice and pissing people off, but when he's not on his game, he takes lots of really poor-angle shots, gets bullied along the walls, and plays just die on his stick. I think it says a lot about his (in)consistency that he hasn't been able to solidify a spot beside 1 of EP/Miller for 2 seasons now.

 

[Glorydays22]

If I'm the Isles I jump on this.....Move Bailey's contract and bring in Garland

 

[Whileee]

Which team has the highest total cap tied up in players that have a negative trade value?

Canucks have to be near the top, don't they?

 

[Superlative Soup]

Worse run franchise in professional sports

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Kyle Dubas tried to bring Garland to Toronto at least twice when he was here. Now that he's in Pittsburgh I bet he tries to acquire Garland for Pittsburgh.



I have been on the Garland train for a while, I think he's a very good player in a bad situation and I would love to see him here to replace Alex Kerfoot.

If he can be had for free with assets I hope Brad Treliving takes the opportunity to add a skilled player, and restock the cupboard s little bit.

 

[oceanchild]

If you mean Vancouver, I think it’s in the bottom tier but not worst.

 

[Heldig]

Worse run franchise in professional sports

The Coyotes say, "hey, wait a minute".

 

[Soundwave]

Imagine trading 9th overall for OEL and Garland and then paying to get rid of them. This is why it's become difficult to be a Canucks fan. This is the normal for us and has been for about 10 years.

Ah well, the bure years, the naz-bert years, and the sedin years were fun. The petterson-hughes years are being ruined by mismanagement.

The state of team management in Canada is so abysmal it's almost hard to believe.

 

[themelkman]

Would love the sharks to grab him for a pick, but he doesnt fit Griers mold

 

[EverTheCynic]

Garland (450k retained) and Joshua for Yamamoto and Foegele

Combined cap hits are nearly the same for next year and Nucks gain cap flexibility after the season

Garland would likely shine in the Oilers' top 6

Kane - McD - Hyman
RNH - Drai - Garland

Nobody wants Yamamoto. Please stop offering him in trade proposals. He is not an NHL player

 

[nergish]

This is because he’s short right!?!

Literally yes.

I’ve been lucky enough to watch every Nucks game with my Dad this past season. My old man is constantly commenting on how noticeable Garland is on the ice.

He has superstar abilities, just severe size limitations.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

I don't know if it counts as "assets" to take Garland, but whether it's him or Boeser, all I would ask for in Nashville is the pick swap 11 down to 15. Depending on who you like as Vancouver, you could even end up getting the same player.

 

[Fulham]

Garland is a good player, who isn't over or under paid really.

 

[TrufleShufle]

Bratt for Hughes and Garland. They might have to add more because of Garland but this will do for now....

 

[kcunac]

Worse run franchise in professional sports

If you mean Vancouver, I think it’s in the bottom tier but not worst.

The state of team management in Canada is so abysmal it's almost hard to believe.

Do People realize the guy who made the OEL/Garland trade doesn’t work here any more?

The new guys haven’t done anything bad yet, though many would say not doing a full rebuild in Hughes and Pettersson’s prime is a mistake.

 

[oceanchild]

Do People realize the guy who made the OEL/Garland trade doesn’t work here any more?

The new guys haven’t done anything bad yet, though many would say not doing a full rebuild in Hughes and Pettersson’s prime is a mistake.

He signed Boeser to a contract he can’t move and traded a first and second to paint himself into a corner with the cap.

He also signed Miller instead of trading him for assets when it was clear the team needed a major shake up and the team still had Horvat.

Traded Dickinson for a second and then added more wingers to an already overload wing that is expensive and appears to not be movable.

Keeps telling us that this cap business isn’t a big deal and doesn’t seem to value the cap appropriately.

Yup, doing a bang up job!

Also set the team up to make a run after it was clear they had no chance at the playoffs while looking at one of the deep drafts in recent memory.

As a Canucks fan, I’m not sure how you can look at this and not wonder if we could have done better.

 

[lawrence]

It blows my mind that Garland was thought to be a great deal at mid-late 1st round pick value when Vancouver picked him up, and now he's a cap dump. I'd take him in Winnipeg, why not?

He’s really not a bad player. It’s not like he’s a low iq or a liability by any means. I feel some teams not comfortable with a player with 4 years left at 5 million. But who knows. He was decent at the world championship. I think he ends up staying.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Imagine trading 9th overall for OEL and Garland and then paying to get rid of them. This is why it's become difficult to be a Canucks fan. This is the normal for us and has been for about 10 years.

Ah well, the bure years, the naz-bert years, and the sedin years were fun. The petterson-hughes years are being ruined by mismanagement.

Was just thinking this myself. We gave up 9th overall and now we might be paying to dump Garland and possibly buyout OEL at some point.

And yet there are still some people who will insist Benning wasn't an absolute buffoon who should never be allowed to GM again.

It blows my mind that Garland was thought to be a great deal at mid-late 1st round pick value when Vancouver picked him up, and now he's a cap dump. I'd take him in Winnipeg, why not?

The sad reality is he wasn't. Benning legitimately thought OEL was a top line defensemen. He even outright said as much. So in his mind he was giving up fair "value".

 

[kcunac]

He signed Boeser to a contract he can’t move and traded a first and second to paint himself into a corner with the cap. He also signed Miller instead of trading him for assets when it was clear the team needed a major shake up and still have Horvat. Traded Dickinson for a second and then added more wingers to an already overload wing that is expensive and appears to not be movable.

Keeps telling us that this cap business isn’t a big deal and doesn’t seem to value the cap appropriately.

Yup, doing a bang up job!

Also set the team up to make a run after it was clear they had no chance at the playoffs while looking at one of the deep drafts in recent memory.

As a Canucks fan, I’m not sure how you can look at this and wonder if we could have done better.

I don’t want to get in an OT fight about management so to keep it on topic I’ll just say that even if you disagree with these moves they pale in comparison to the Garland/OEL trade, which is probably the main cause of the ‘worst run franchise in history’ comments.

 

[oceanchild]

I don’t want to get in an OT fight about management so to keep it on topic I’ll just say that even if you disagree with these moves they pale in comparison to the Garland/OEL trade, which is probably the main cause of the ‘worst run franchise in history’ comments.

One of the worst trades in NHL history seems like a generous benchmark that is easy to beat.

 

[kcunac]

One of the worst trades in NHL history seems like a generous benchmark that is easy to beat.

This thread is about Garland. Take it to the Nucks board management thread.

 

[bleedgreen]

He’s a good player, eff the other teams.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

All because Nuck mgmt has been run by donkeys since Gillis.