Rumor: Friedman says there have been rumblings of the Flyers trading Nolan Patrick

[therealkoho]

Could have seen this coming. When you don’t have one plus trait and you’re just a good all-around junior player and an okay skater, you’re just going to be an okay player at the next level.

OK skater

I'm not a Flyers fan by any means but I've seen him a few times live and of course TV, the kid is fluid

That said

Patrick + Phillipe Myers

Nylander + Liljegren

with the thought of playing Patrick on Matthews right side

 

[dingbathero]

You watch the relationship between Konecny and Patrick - I feel the Flyers want to let that play out into something down the road. It may be the Coots - Giroux type fit in time.

That's my hope anyway.

Would rather hold onto Patrick for that reason.

 

[Rob Brown]

OK skater

I'm not a Flyers fan by any means but I've seen him a few times live and of course TV, the kid is fluid

That said

Patrick + Phillipe Myers

Nylander + Liljegren

with the thought of playing Patrick on Matthews right side

I'm not sure why the Leafs would do this. Nylander had almost as many points as Patrick despite missing almost 30 games and isn't much older at all, and has 2/3 seasons with over 60 points. Seems like a downgrade to me.

 

[Spurgeon]

I didn't read the thread... What would a deal look like to send Patrick to Minnesota?

From Minnesota's perspective I'd offer Spurgeon + conditional 2020 1st (Philadelphia gets our 2020 1st if Spurgeon doesn't re-sign). Don't know if that's close or not.

 

[Peacekeeper]

From Minnesota's perspective I'd offer Spurgeon + conditional 2020 1st (Philadelphia gets our 2020 1st if Spurgeon doesn't re-sign). Don't know if that's close or not.

What would your new username be then

 

[snowkiddin]

Sometimes I wonder if Friedman (and others) just read Internet forums and blogs (hfboards, Twitter, etc.) and use that as basis for their “rumours”

 

[NJ DevLolz]

Couture had a slow start and he turned out great, Philly needs to take it slow with Nolan and I think he'll turn out the same way

Huh? Couture was a Calder finalist

 

[IslandersFan17]

Sometimes I wonder if Friedman (and others) just read Internet forums and blogs (hfboards, Twitter, etc.) and use that as basis for their “rumours”

I also wonder if people on the internet overvalue their own players/prospects and get butt hurt when any media says something in any regard about said players/prospects...

 

[snowkiddin]

I also wonder if people on the internet overvalue their own players/prospects and get butt hurt when any media says something in any regard about said players/prospects...

Probably need to get Sherlock to figure that one out

 

[TML1967]

I'm not sure why the Leafs would do this. Nylander had almost as many points as Patrick despite missing almost 30 games and isn't much older at all, and has 2/3 seasons with over 60 points. Seems like a downgrade to me.

If it's the Leafs, wouldn't it make sense around a Kadri type?
Good contract, 2 time 30 goal scorer who plays a rough style Philly usually really likes.
If they are looking for a 2C it could make a good amount of sense.

Leafs need cap space and might see him in a similar light to JVR. 2nd overal pick who was underperforming who they think could be good for then.

Patrick as a 3C behind Tavares and Matthew's would be solid, and he has a few years to keep developing. If he turns into a full 2C by his late 20s, it's just in time for Tavares to move down the lineup.

 

[Tripod]

so props for the Coburn trade and....

Signed Briere
Traded 2nd(TJ Brennan) for Biron
Traded a 1st for Timonen and Hartnell
Traded Carter for Voracek, 1st(Couturier) and 3rd(Cousins)
Traded Richards for Schenn and Simmonds + 2nd
Traded Ole-Kristian Tollefsen +5th for Leino...then was smart NOT to re-sign Leino(sorry Sabre fans)
Signed Bobrovsky when no one else had him on their radar. Unfortunately old owner would not wait to full development.
Traded Lupul, Sbisa, 2 1sts(Moore and Etem-what a waste...lol) for Pronger. Unfortunate eye injury ended thing early
Traded Versteeg for 2nd and 3rd...picked Gostisbehere
Traded 4th rounder for Streit...gave them 3 good years

Holmgren certainly made some bad moves, but also made some very good ones.

I also wonder if people on the internet overvalue their own players/prospects and get butt hurt when any media says something in any regard about said players/prospects...

I also wonder why people ignore that Bobby Mac said Patrick won't be moved, AFTER Friedman posted his tweet.

 

[Tripod]

If it's the Leafs, wouldn't it make sense around a Kadri type?
Good contract, 2 time 30 goal scorer who plays a rough style Philly usually really likes.
If they are looking for a 2C it could make a good amount of sense.

Leafs need cap space and might see him in a similar light to JVR. 2nd overal pick who was underperforming who they think could be good for then.

Patrick as a 3C behind Tavares and Matthew's would be solid, and he has a few years to keep developing. If he turns into a full 2C by his late 20s, it's just in time for Tavares to move down the lineup.

The Flyers window to win is not now-3 years. The Flyers would be dumb to forgo the additional control over Patrick for short term gain. Same goes for trading him for RNH.

 

[TML1967]

The Flyers window to win is not now-3 years. The Flyers would be dumb to forgo the additional control over Patrick for short term gain. Same goes for trading him for RNH.

Dont disagree, but if he is being shopped I'd assume ita for a more proven guy.
He is also young and should grow, so it makes little sense to move him unless it's for a position they dont have.

Maybe management is looking to quicken being a competitive team? IDK why else he would be moved, he hasn't been great but for his age he has done fine for a 3C.

 

[IslandersFan17]

Signed Briere
Traded 2nd(TJ Brennan) for Biron
Traded a 1st for Timonen and Hartnell
Traded Carter for Voracek, 1st(Couturier) and 3rd(Cousins)
Traded Richards for Schenn and Simmonds + 2nd
Traded Ole-Kristian Tollefsen +5th for Leino...then was smart NOT to re-sign Leino(sorry Sabre fans)
Signed Bobrovsky when no one else had him on their radar. Unfortunately old owner would not wait to full development.
Traded Lupul, Sbisa, 2 1sts(Moore and Etem-what a waste...lol) for Pronger. Unfortunate eye injury ended thing early
Traded Versteeg for 2nd and 3rd...picked Gostisbehere
Traded 4th rounder for Streit...gave them 3 good years

Holmgren certainly made some bad moves, but also made some very good ones.


I also wonder why people ignore that Bobby Mac said Patrick won't be moved, AFTER Friedman posted his tweet.

Cause its HFBoards.

 

[Tripod]

Dont disagree, but if he is being shopped I'd assume ita for a more proven guy.
He is also young and should grow, so it makes little sense to move him unless it's for a position they dont have.

Maybe management is looking to quicken being a competitive team? IDK why else he would be moved, he hasn't been great but for his age he has done fine for a 3C.

Except, he isn't being shopped. This entire thread has ignored that AFTER EF tweeted out his opinion, Bobby Mac listed Patrick as the guys that won't be moved for sure.

Completely ignored it, and still do.

Fletch wants to ADD a C because Patrick has not proved he is a #2 C yet AND because Frost has not proved he is even an NHLer yet. If Frost isn't ready, and regardless of what Patrivk does, the Flyers are short a C. Adding a C makes sense since Frost can start in the AHL of needed, then at wing in the NHL.

so again, Patrick is not available...unless of course it was a deal that blew them away. And that's not Kadri.

 

[Pelle31]

OK skater

I'm not a Flyers fan by any means but I've seen him a few times live and of course TV, the kid is fluid

That said

Patrick + Phillipe Myers

Nylander + Liljegren

with the thought of playing Patrick on Matthews right side

No thanks, as a Flyer fan I'll keep Patrick and Myers. If the Flyers sign Hayes then Patrick can slide to 3rd centre and work on his craft with less pressure and Myers will hopefully be the Flyers defense lineup this fall.

 

[TheKingPin]

Myers could end up the flyers’ best Defender. Can’t trade that.

 

[voyageur]

To his hometown Winnipeg for a deal around Trouba and him?

I hope not. The off ice stuff I heard about him makes me believe that he could derail his career here. Much sooner have Brett Howden from the Rangers, and at least a potential top 3 defenseman to replace Trouba.

 

[mercury]

I hope not. The off ice stuff I heard about him makes me believe that he could derail his career here. Much sooner have Brett Howden from the Rangers, and at least a potential top 3 defenseman to replace Trouba.

Such as. . .?

 

[CanuckistanFlyerfan]

Such as. . .?

You didn't hear?

His aunts neighbors cousin heard a rumor that Patrick was a bad boy. Unless of course he was actually traded to the Jets...then there's nothing to see here.

 

[ps241]

I have a bad feeling about this. I think gaudreau is going to get traded.

Why would the Flamers trade their best forward who is on a great contract?

 

[ps241]

Wonder what Patrick’s trade value is right now. Seems like the kind of guy that is ridiculed for being a bust yet fans line up to trade for him

He is not a bust by any means which is why he gets posting traction in trade threads. He is still an interesting prospect although he has not come out of the gates like Pettersson or Heiskanen. If Philly get Hayes signed I assume it’s not to play #3 centre so it only adds fuel to the fire.

 

[wuf]

I'm not sure why the Leafs would do this. Nylander had almost as many points as Patrick despite missing almost 30 games and isn't much older at all, and has 2/3 seasons with over 60 points. Seems like a downgrade to me.

Dawg, he's 2 years older.

 

[TFHockey]

Patrick isn't getting moved for anything less than a current top pair defender or top line forward over 26 or a player 26 or younger that has top line or top pair potential.

Patrick's value is far greater than RNH

He doesn't hold that kind of value. Definitely not a bad player like some are trying to claim.. I'd trade for him for sure. But Patrick isn't worth that kind of return.

 

[Starat327]

He doesn't hold that kind of value. Definitely not a bad player like some are trying to claim.. I'd trade for him for sure. But Patrick isn't worth that kind of return.

Thats kind of the crux of it for us though. Flyers dont need futures. If we're moving Patrick, it has to be for an immediate upgrade (and obviously wed add, dependent upon the upgrade). I dont think anyone thinks he actually holds enough value to bring that player back. But if we arent getting something back that significantly improves the team now, theres really no point in trading him.