Player Discussion Frank Vatrano

[Trojans86]

I dont think anyone wouldn't want him to stay. The issue is the contract.

Palat got 5x6mil and that will be 3 years before Vatrano's next contract. Vatrano will be the same age and a comparable role. Even if we give Palat the edge because he has more of a track record and cups, but with the cap going up I could easily see Vatrano getting 5-6 mil for 5 years.

Do you really want to pay Vatrano that much until age 36?
Someone will see him as the final piece and overpay him. I really hope it isnt the Ducks.

In addition to the value we get back given he is having a career year. He hasn’t done anything away from Mctavish.

 

[Deuce22]

If you think this year is the new and improved Frank Vatrano, pay the man. If you think it's an outlier, don't. He isn't taking a discount to stay with the Ducks.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

I really don't want to see the Ducks end up with their own David Clarkson contract situation, that guy had a career year and the Leafs overpaid him. The Ducks already have Killorn who's looking like a bad contract and there is 3 more years of Strome too.

 

[70sSanO]

Ducks should do nothing and see what next year brings. If Frank keeps putting up numbers, with or without McTavish, PV can decide then.

Moving Vatrano now is based on potentially maximizing his return for an unknown that never makes it to Vatrano’s level.

Vatrano is a lunch box player who can score and plays with a constant chip on his shoulder. You can always find players with a chip, but they generally don’t put up the numbers.

Refreshing to see a productive Duck who plays like that.

John

 

[MMC]

Should get at least 60 points this year for sure

 

[Bijelo]

Good player 23-24 around fifty points but wants Kakko instead in trade with Vatrano.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Good player 23-24 around fifty points but wants Kakko instead in trade with Vatrano.

 

[Terrier]

Ex-Bruin, UMass star doesn’t want to be traded amid rumors

Ex-Bruins forward Frank Vatrano, who is from East Longmeadow and played at UMass, is rumored to be a target ahead of Friday's NHL Trade Deadline.

www.masslive.com

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Ex-Bruin, UMass star doesn’t want to be traded amid rumors

Ex-Bruins forward Frank Vatrano, who is from East Longmeadow and played at UMass, is rumored to be a target ahead of Friday's NHL Trade Deadline.

www.masslive.com

Thanks for sharing that! Really glad to hear how happy Frank and his family are in Anaheim. The price to move him would have to be quite significant, or else he's a big part of the current top six group.

 

[Leonardo87]

Thanks for sharing that! Really glad to hear how happy Frank and his family are in Anaheim. The price to move him would have to be quite significant, or else he's a big part of the current top six group.

If he loves it here, hopefully he can take a friendly team discount to stay a couple of more years past this contract. I don’t see a player like Vatrano slowing down anytime soon.

Rather have Vatrano here than some stupid futures that may never even see the NHL. The return would have to be something pretty damn big and more a nhl ready prospect or younger roster player.

 

[snowave]

Its refreshing to hear someone wants to stay here, even with the current shit show. There's absolutely no need to trade him now, unless someone grossly overpays.

 

[Gliff]

Money talks. He wants to be here because he gets top 6 and PP minutes. We are the best chance at him getting a huge payday next summer.

If he really wants to be here then sign this summer for another 3 year deal around the same he makes now.

It’s all business. He wants to get paid and the Ducks want to get assets for a guy unlikely to ever repeat it.

 

[Leonardo87]

Money talks. He wants to be here because he gets top 6 and PP minutes. We are the best chance at him getting a huge payday next summer.

If he really wants to be here then sign this summer for another 3 year deal around the same he makes now.

It’s all business. He wants to get paid and the Ducks want to get assets for a guy unlikely to ever repeat it.

I think we need Vatrano for at least one more year till Gauthier can take on a Top 6 role. Have a lot of high hopes for him.

 

[Gliff]

I think we need Vatrano for at least one more year till Gauthier can take on a Top 6 role. Have a lot of high hopes for him.

Ya, no issue with keeping him another year unless someone makes an offer we can't refuse, but his desire to stay in Anaheim should have nothing to do with it. The Ducks have no business paying him the contract he will likely be looking for:
Palat
Bertuzzi
Rakell

 

[Lord Flashheart]

Hate repeating myself, Vatrano is the type of guy you keep. He's scores goals, he's passionate, he cares about winning, he cares about the team, and isn't backing down.

It is unlikely he will be a big part of next contention cycle due to age (I doubt he'll be as effective at around 35), but he's exactly the type of player to bridge that gap and help young team grow.

 

[cheesymc]

Hate repeating myself, Vatrano is the type of guy you keep. He's scores goals, he's passionate, he cares about winning, he cares about the team, and isn't backing down.

It is unlikely he will be a big part of next contention cycle due to age (I doubt he'll be as effective at around 35), but he's exactly the type of player to bridge that gap and help young team grow.

I think most of us on this board are in agreement. You don't trade someone like Frank when you are trying to rebuild. He's giving us exactly what we need. It only makes sense if an offer was worthy of the move, like a legitimate playable high-end prospect. If that isn't offered, then we absolutely should say no. Futures with picks or unready prospects should be a firm no, we already have plenty of those.

 

[bracer028]

thank god none of you are GMs. you sell high, buy low. Vatrano is HIGH right now to a team needing to make the final push for the playoffs.

He doesn't fit the timeline.

You sell him.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

thank god none of you are GMs. you sell high, buy low. Vatrano is HIGH right now to a team needing to make the final push for the playoffs.

He doesn't fit the timeline.

You sell him.

Heres the problem.. What exactly is the timeline?

 

[70sSanO]

thank god none of you are GMs. you sell high, buy low. Vatrano is HIGH right now to a team needing to make the final push for the playoffs.

He doesn't fit the timeline.

You sell him.

I want to hear about this buy low process by one of the worst teams in the NHL and in a high tax state.

John

 

[Hey234]

thank god none of you are GMs. you sell high, buy low. Vatrano is HIGH right now to a team needing to make the final push for the playoffs.

He doesn't fit the timeline.

You sell him.

You want to trade one of the only goal scores on the team to then trade for the same type of player right after?

Why trade a good player who wants to be here for someone with low value? If the player has low value, what are the chances he's better than Vatrano? Players going out have to be replaced. The Ducks cannot only have young players. Vets matter.

 

[Ducks DVM]

thank god none of you are GMs. you sell high, buy low. Vatrano is HIGH right now to a team needing to make the final push for the playoffs.

He doesn't fit the timeline.

You sell him.

There are future costs to trading a player who does not wish to be traded with more than 1 year left on his contract. UFA’s will notice and it’ll be yet another hit against signing here, and trading a popular team leader before it’s necessary will also be bad for how current players view management. Nobody wants to play for a team where all you are is the next chip to trade for more magic beans.

 

[bracer028]

Heres the problem.. What exactly is the timeline?

Our best players are early 20s. This guy is 30.

If we are competing, it will be in 5 years

You want to trade one of the only goal scores on the team to then trade for the same type of player right after?

Why trade a good player who wants to be here for someone with low value? If the player has low value, what are the chances he's better than Vatrano? Players going out have to be replaced. The Ducks cannot only have young players. Vets matter.

Who said im asking for a similar player? You get prospects or picks for him

 

[bracer028]

There are future costs to trading a player who does not wish to be traded with more than 1 year left on his contract. UFA’s will notice and it’ll be yet another hit against signing here, and trading a popular team leader before it’s necessary will also be bad for how current players view management. Nobody wants to play for a team where all you are is the next chip to trade for more magic beans.

This is sports, its a business. Its not the girl scouts. Look at football. Everyone gets moved if you dont peform. You move pieces to win, not sit on players while you are last in the league

Thats the problem with you guys. Value our players too much, much more than they are worth. Silf, flower, gib should all have been moved the year when cogs was traded

You have a team located in prime california to attract players. Thats what you have going for you.

I want to hear about this buy low process by one of the worst teams in the NHL and in a high tax state.

John

You answered your own question. We are the worst team in the league. You sell the guy whos high. Whats the point of having him on a team thats the worst in the league?

 

[Ducks DVM]

Our best players are early 20s. This guy is 30.

If we are competing, it will be in 5 years


Who said im asking for a similar player? You get prospects or picks for him

For the playoffs? That should be in2-3 years.

You need a similar player as veteran leadership. The kids clearly aren’t cutting it for the next several years.

 

[bracer028]

For the playoffs? That should be in2-3 years.

You need a similar player as veteran leadership. The kids clearly aren’t cutting it for the next several years.

The worst team in the league to competing for the first round in the playoffs is a dream.

I do hoe cutter does that for us though