Flyers' 2017-18 roster discussion, part 6

[Magua]

I don't think you need to make a move - sign Williams at $4m, and a goalie at $3m. Leaving $1.1m in space.

I signed Williams at $3.5 and a goalie at $4, so I had it closer to 700k space but yeah, it's definitely not unfeasible. But I'm no cap expert, and I'm not sure how much room is needed for bonuses (which could be dealt with around the trade deadline if need be) because that's starting to get tight.

Maybe Williams needs a bit of a pay incentive to come here, like making 750k more this year than last. Goalie is a wild card. If we go bargain big shopping, we could sign someone from $2.5-3. The hope of getting Mason might be $4. Need a 23rd extra man too perhaps, but that's pennies.

Matt Read has to go though cap-wise.

 

[Tripod]

So who's the best UFA LW if Weal leaves? Has to be short term.

When Lauri Korpikoski with 20 points is the 5th highest LW UFA, the pickings are slim.

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

I signed Williams at $3.5 and a goalie at $4, so I had it closer to 700k space but yeah, it's definitely not unfeasible. But I'm no cap expert, and I'm not sure how much room is needed for bonuses (which could be dealt with around the trade deadline if need be) because that's starting to get tight.

Maybe Williams needs a bit of a pay incentive to come here, like making 750k more this year than last. Goalie is a wild card. If we go bargain big shopping, we could sign someone from $2.5-3. The hope of getting Mason might be $4. Need a 23rd extra man too perhaps, but that's pennies.

Matt Read has to go though cap-wise.

I keep hoping him and Filps are traded at TDL. I didn't like Filps trade from the beginning and now he just blocks our young kids. Hope Patrick and Laughton bump him and Lehtera from center position.

 

[whitstifier]

Sending MacDonald to the AHL would save a bit

 

[Magua]

Sending MacDonald to the AHL would save a bit

I mean it would save all of us endless complaining and the painful experience of watching MacDonald.......but cap-wise we'd still have to call up Sanheim, and it wouldn't change anything.

Now, trading MacDonald to some sucker with a mil or mil and a half retained is The Dream.

 

[whitstifier]

I mean it would save all of us endless complaining and the painful experience of watching MacDonald.......but cap-wise we'd still have to call up Sanheim, and it wouldn't change anything.

Now, trading MacDonald to some sucker with a mil or mil and a half retained is The Dream.

HA, I'm dumb. I was too busy celebrating over demoting MacDonald and saving a bit on his cap hit to recognize that a promotion would nullify any savings.

 

[flyerslducks]

marleau would be awesome. Doubt he comes here though. Would be the ideal guy to replace schenn on the top pp.

 

[Curufinwe]

They qualified Bardreau, Laughton, Leier, Lyubimov, Lyon, Stolarz and Vecchione.

 

[Ruck Over]

They qualified Bardreau, Laughton, Leier, Lyubimov, Lyon, Stolarz and Vecchione.

Did not expect Lyubimov to get qualified. I liked him, over Vdv at least, obvious not a completely polished player. Big picture, hope this is a Allentown move, I want more on the Flyers.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Probably more of a tagging thing to keep his rights in case he comes back to the NHL. Same thing they did with Gustafsson when he left to play overseas. I'd be surprised if he's not playing in Russia next year.

 

[FatTugboatFlahr]

I'd really like Williams if a fair deal can be agreed upon. I think after the Schenn trade we're a solid winger short and with a few rookies on the team next year, I'd like to be able to guarantee they'll have good linemates no matter where they end up.

 

[healthyscratch]

For the love of god, one of the guys who covers the Flyers tweeted his lines this morning....

Lindblom - Patrick - Weiss

 

[Damaged Goods]

"We want to be better now, we want to be better next year. Valteri is a very good two way player... This was a guy that we've liked for years."

â€â€Ron Hextall, on the acquisition of Valteri Filppula

He's not going anywhere soon and Hextall wants him to have a big role (top-6). I think it made him much more comfortable with unloading Schenn.

 

[flyersfan018]

For the love of god, one of the guys who covers the Flyers tweeted his lines this morning....

Lindblom - Patrick - Weiss

Ahhh Stephen Weiss is back.

 

[healthyscratch]

Ahhh Stephen Weiss is back.

Haha, would take him today over the real Weise. Damn autocorrect.

 

[Larry44]

I'd really like Williams if a fair deal can be agreed upon. I think after the Schenn trade we're a solid winger short and with a few rookies on the team next year, I'd like to be able to guarantee they'll have good linemates no matter where they end up.

I don't think we need any more UFA forwards, in fact we need to trade a couple.

Assuming Weal doesn't sign with Flyers:

Lindblom-Giroux-Voracek
Raffl-Couturier-Konecny
Filppula-Patrick-Simmonds
Lehtera-Laughton-Weise
Read-Vecchione-Lyubimov (is it possible he accepts the QO and comes back?)


That's already enough. If there are injuries, I really want to see Bardreau and Leier get a shot this year. McDonald and Knight can play in a pinch and Aube-Kubel and Martel are not far off. Vorobyov might be too good for the AHL - do we keep him there for the full year if he's tearing it up?

I'd rather roll with what we have, Weal or not, and then do some call ups to see if we have more NHLers ready. Certainly Leier and Bardreau have earned a shot as 4th line PKers, haven't they?

At TDL we may be able to unload Read, Flip and Jori to teams needed help at F for the playoffs and get a couple more picks....

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Bardreau is waiver exempt like Veechione. So pretty tough to see them both making the team with so many bodies that can't pass through waivers.

Ultimately there's enough talent joining the pro level whether it be the NHL or AHL this year & it's not going to stop next year either that guys like those two, Leier, Fazleev, etc. who are really limited upside guys might never really get much of chance.

 

[FatTugboatFlahr]

I don't think we need any more UFA forwards, in fact we need to trade a couple.

Assuming Weal doesn't sign with Flyers:

Lindblom-Giroux-Voracek
Raffl-Couturier-Konecny
Filppula-Patrick-Simmonds
Lehtera-Laughton-Weise
Read-Vecchione-Lyubimov (is it possible he accepts the QO and comes back?)


That's already enough. If there are injuries, I really want to see Bardreau and Leier get a shot this year. McDonald and Knight can play in a pinch and Aube-Kubel and Martel are not far off. Vorobyov might be too good for the AHL - do we keep him there for the full year if he's tearing it up?

I'd rather roll with what we have, Weal or not, and then do some call ups to see if we have more NHLers ready. Certainly Leier and Bardreau have earned a shot as 4th line PKers, haven't they?

At TDL we may be able to unload Read, Flip and Jori to teams needed help at F for the playoffs and get a couple more picks....

Idk how you can say you'd rather have Raffl, Leier and Bardreau over Williams.

Williams would be a super solid pickup.

 

[deadhead]

Except the only way you could entice Williams would be too much money, otherwise he'll go to a cup contender at age 36.

 

[The Madrigal]

Except the only way you could entice Williams would be too much money, otherwise he'll go to a cup contender at age 36.

I agree. I would love bring in Williams to mentor the young players but I'm not sure what incentive he has to come to a team who probably doesn't make the playoffs.

 

[Magua]

Flyers certainly have a chance to be a playoff team, provided they don't screw the pooch with the goalie situation.

Flyers are probably still a couple years away from making any real noise, but they're no bottom feeder. While I agree that Williams likely wants to go to a contender, he does have 3 Cups already, and if there's 1 single team in the NHL he might loosen that requirement on, it would be the Flyers for the personal reasons. He'd make such an awesome veteran compliment to Patrick. Heck, any of the centers.

 

[The Madrigal]

The only way I see Williams signing with the Flyers is if they pay him as much or more than anyone else, and/or he really likes the idea of potentially finishing out his career where he started it. I agree though, he would make a great guy to have around the young players for a couple of years.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

It's not so much about the organization & people in it that he has connections too (Hextall, Homer, & Clarke). He still lives in New Jersey by Atlantic City in his offseasons. His wife is from the area. So there's personal connections that go beyond the Flyers too for him here.

Obviously from the Flyers standpoint he'd be a fit on & off the ice with all the young players expected in the lineup this year.

 

[The Madrigal]

It's not so much about the organization & people in it that he has connections too (Hextall, Homer, & Clarke). He still lives in New Jersey by Atlantic City in his offseasons. His wife is from the area. So there's personal connections that go beyond the Flyers too for him here.

Obviously from the Flyers standpoint he'd be a fit on & off the ice with all the young players expected in the lineup this year.

I would much rather have Williams than Weal and to be quite honest there definitely isn't room for both.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I would much rather have Williams than Weal and to be quite honest there definitely isn't room for both.

I would imagine Weal is more priority but Hextall will kick tires on Williams to see if there's something potentially there if Weal looks to go elsewhere.