Flyers' 2017-18 roster discussion, part 6

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Pt. 5: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2348161
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[BernieParent]

Like I said, it's a tradeoff, or a spectrum.

Ha ha, I get it.

That is, if you have toughness without skill, you're probably not going to win, if you have skill without toughness it's going to be tough to get through the playoffs.

So you're trying to balance the two, but different teams put more emphasis on one or the other. The Kings were a physical team that had elite scorers, but weren't as fast as Chicago or Pittsburgh. Both ways worked. I'd just enjoy winning the Kings way more.

And I think Hextall agrees, while he's drafted some small, fast guys (Kase, Marody) he's also drafted a bunch of physical scorers like Bunnyman, and guys with size and speed like Rubtsov. Same on defense where he's gathered big, mobile defensemen.

I agree with the bolded. I don't see the refereeing philosophy to "let 'em play" in the postseason, even in the face of blatantly obvious infractions, anytime soon. And the 4 rounds really are a war of attrition.

 

[deadhead]

Of course you get it.

"Only the Lord Saves More than Bernie Parent"

 

[kelmitchell]

Wouldnt mind kicking the tires on lehner, apparently buffalo is interested in moving him

 

[Rebels57]

Wouldnt mind kicking the tires on lehner, apparently buffalo is interested in moving him

He is the worst shootout goalie ever and I cant stand the idea of watching that.

 

[kelmitchell]

He is the worst shootout goalie ever and I cant stand the idea of watching that.

Yes, but he was great on a team with even worse defense than what we had here.....the shootout needs to go anyway, that **** is awful to watch in General

 

[Rebels57]

Yes, but he was great on a team with even worse defense than what we had here.....the shootout needs to go anyway, that **** is awful to watch in General

For sure the shootout blows but Lehner could cost us anywhere from 5-10 points alone with his inability to make a save.

There has to be a better option.

 

[Ruck Over]

He is the worst shootout goalie ever and I cant stand the idea of watching that.

Would you be able to tell he's the worst shootout goalie ever? If he were a Flyer, what would change?

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

as Flyer fans I think we are pretty good judges on bad shootout goalies.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

He is the worst shootout goalie ever and I cant stand the idea of watching that.

Hakstok could put in Neuvirth just for shootouts.

I don't know of any coaches in the NHL switching out the starter for the backup in shootout situations.

 

[Rebels57]

Would you be able to tell he's the worst shootout goalie ever? If he were a Flyer, what would change?

Mason was very good in the shootout in 16-17 actually

 

[beetee15]

Hakstok could put in Neuvirth just for shootouts.

I don't know of any coaches in the NHL switching out the starter for the backup in shootout situations.

you think his injuries were bad now watch a cold goalie go post to post

 

[Ruck Over]

Mason was very good in the shootout in 16-17 actually

 

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

Wouldnt mind kicking the tires on lehner, apparently buffalo is interested in moving him

Not sold on Lehner and that's going back to my days when I lived in Ottawa and watched him play. Great size, but streaky with a penchant for letting in real soft goals.

 

[Rebels57]

Haha I dropped the ball on that one

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Great news for us - terrible news for Chicago. For our younger viewers, that guy is a **** with a capital C.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

dont know enough about Kris Knoblauch to make a comment on the guy. He is pretty well regarded, so I guess that cannot hurt.

 

[Curufinwe]

He was a great hitter for the Twins.

Joking aside, hiring a well regarded CHL coach who's only 38 would be a good step for the future.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/staff.php?staff=2447

 

[Lord Defect]

Is a CHL coach viewed as a better coach than a college coach?

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Is a CHL coach viewed as a better coach than a college coach?

He has to be better than one college coach I can think of

It really is potentially exciting to bring him into the fold - I have read the articles that people have linked on here about him and he seems like a really modern, progressive thinker - kind of in the Cooper mold maybe? That might be a reach, I don't know, but he definitely gets the boys playing fast. If he could mesh what I have seen of his style with the better angels of Hacksaw's nature (getting the defensemen pretty heavily involved), it could be a pretty interesting mix.

 

[Curufinwe]

Depends on the coach.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

ill put the over/under at 3 games before folks start complaining about the type of PP he runs

 

[Curufinwe]

Not that he'll do this, but what PP unit would do better?

Ghost, Schenn, Simmonds, Voracek + anyone not named Giroux

or

Giroux + anyone not named Ghost, Schenn, Simmonds or Voracek

 

[bb12]

Not that he'll do this, but what PP unit would do better?

Ghost, Schenn, Simmonds, Voracek + anyone not named Giroux

or

Giroux + anyone not named Ghost, Schenn, Simmonds or Voracek

I think the 2nd one will. Our pp was successful before ghost. Our pp relies on G and simmonds. The others can be swapped out (not all 3 at once). Very similar to schenn for harty.