Florida, Pittsburgh, Edmonton and Islanders fans, would you take Laine or Matthews?

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Add Laine or Matthews?

  1. Florida fan voting Laine

    12.5%
  2. Florida fan voting Matthews

    3.1%
  3. Pittsburgh fan voting Laine

    17.7%
  4. Pittsburgh fan voting Matthews

    7.3%
  5. Edmonton fan voting Laine

    32.3%
  6. Edmonton fan voting Matthews

    13.5%
  7. Islanders fan voting Laine

    8.3%
  8. Islanders fan voting Matthews

    5.2%
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  1. Sidney the Kidney

    Sidney the Kidney Pens' defense like

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    I'd still probably lean toward Matthews. The Pens would then be able to essentially roll out three #1 lines, with an elite center driving each one.

    Laine would make one line dominant, but they'd be a bit top heavy.
     
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    Why would you want a player made of glass?
     
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    Isn't that what the Penguins did when they had Crosby, Malkin and Jordan Staal as their top 3 centres?
     
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    Pens have Brassard though, one of the best playoff performers of the last several years.

    So they can still roll three great lines if they have Laine.

    I also think Laine gives them the best chance to maximize Crosby and Malkin while they are still elite players. Swap out Sheary for Laine and that's a crazy top nine..

    With Matthews, he or Brassard are playing out of position.... not sure how well that would work.

    Also have to consider how happy Matthews would be playing third line pivot for the next few years. Probably wouldn't be too thrilled about it.

    Then Staal got mad and wanted to leave so...

    Like I said above, how long would Matthews be happy being a third pivot? He certainly wouldn't push Crosby or Malkin into that role for the foreseeable future.
     
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    they were the bpa when they were drafted. pens get a choice between laine and matthews
     
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    Both of which already happened during his rookie season..he had 33 goals and 61 points in 61 games too...before being moved to little line where he faced easier comp and went cold for the remainer until 73 games played lol
     
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    Relax big guy. I'm well aware. Trochek is awesome, but hardly an elite 1st line centre. Barkov - Matthews would be absurd.
     
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    For all those who complain about the oilers drafting high

    If we had been using the old system--Laine would be ab oiler

    McDavid to Laine? just think about that
     
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    they need wingers more than they need C. they'd be better of with laine + barkov than matthews
     
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    Even if the Oilers got the 1st pick in 2016 which they had a chance seeing as they second last after the Leafs, you think they take Laine or do they trade down and select him at #2? Let's remember in 2015 prior to them winning the lottery everyone said they needed help on defense and if they didn't move up chances are they would have selected Noah Hanifin. However once they knew they were selecting 1st they had to get McDavid, so wouldn't that same logic applied to Matthews? Let's remember everyone had Matthews as the concusses #1 pick and best player available.
     
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    chances are charelli would swap the 1st pick for the 2nd one just like that.
     
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    Laine and McDavid or Laine and Drai.
    Perfect.
     
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    You should include some other teams that have amazing Cs but lack winger depth. That should tip the results even further in the direction they are going, as was intended.
     
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    Ugh man, I used to love the Jets but reading fans like you in the mainboards has poisoned them in my mind. I wish it hadn't.
     
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    How’s that a false? If Matthews converted to Wing the Leaf fans like yourself would have no more excuses to why Matthews is better.
     
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    I'm not convinced Laine would even be a better winger than Matthews, who has stronger board play, is the best finisher around the net in the league, and probably has the highest off-the-puck ozone IQ in the league.
     
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    FishManSam I pretend to be smart, I’m bad at it

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    He has nearly 60% even strength ozone starts, I don’t know his qoc, but I’d assume teams match Sceif/Wheeler ahead of him.
     
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    Well no, because Staal was never a #1 center. Staal was essentially a 2C with Selke defense, but he couldn't really drive a line offensively the way Matthews can.
     
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    Higher PPG, tougher matchups, calder, draft pedigree...
     
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    as a florida fan i say matthews has more value being a centerman, so that was my pick. having said that i would rather laine actually on the panthers because we have barkov that he could play with, and we have trocheck on line 2 anyways.
     
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    1. Laine has the higher PPG out of the two (128/142 vs 119/135)
    2. Tougher matchups could be an argument although that's more at the discretion of the coach
    3. Calder - fair, Matthews had a better season last season
    4. Draft pedigree is a ridiculous argument - by that argument, RNH and Landeskog are better than Kucherov and Gaudreau

    I think Matthews is probably a better player right now, but these arguments are extremely weak
     
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    Can't quit until Laine wins a poll!
     
  23. FishManSam

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    Didn’t realize his PPG was higher, appreciate the info.

    I added the draft pedigree argument because seeing as both players are very close in other aspects, something that happened less than 2 years ago still has some relevance at least in my mind. I understand it’s a weak argument, but so is suggesting “Matthews has nothing over Laine if he were a winger”.

    Why is it that when Laine is producing at a solid pace however, Matthews is outproducing him in goals, assists and PPG, there is no comparison threads. Then Matthews gets injured and Laine goes on a ridiculous (unsustainable) streak. There’s polls everywhere?
     
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