Confirmed with Link: Flames Trade Neal for Lucic (12.5% retained) and conditional 3rd round pick

[Kahvi]

Someone please tell me how it is with NMC and expansion draft. Lucic waived his NCM for this trade, does it mean that 1) there's no more NMC or 2) Lucic still has NMC, he just happened to accept thismove

 

[DCDM]

And suddenly, the man posing as Brad Treliving whips off the mask - it was Brian Burke all along!

 

[FlamerForLife]

Someone please tell me how it is with NMC and expansion draft. Lucic waived his NCM for this trade, does it mean that 1) there's no more NMC or 2) Lucic still has NMC, he just happened to accept thismove

#2 is correct, he would have to be asked to waive his NMC to be exposed for the expansion draft

 

[snipes]

Love it!!!

Depending on the conditional pick. If it’s a 3rd or later I’ll be over the moon.

 

[Rangediddy]

McDavid makes everyone look slow so nobody's going to notice Neal's lead feet.

 

[Bounces R Way]

 

[CamPopplestone]

Lucic can at least play bottom six. Neal didn't click with any of our top six forwards, and is beyond useless on the third line. Even if he bounces back in Edmonton, he wouldn't here.

So if we can save a bit of cap and get a pick? I'm cool with it. The only thing is we need his NMC nullified so we don't have to protect him in expansion.

 

[snipes]

Why would we let our rivals off the hook for the worst contract in the league? Even if our return is digestible, it automatically opens up the possibility that the Oilers get better.

Neal must've seriously pissed off Peters and Treliving last year.

You guys objectively do need some toughness in the lineup.

Can’t believe we got Neal coming back though. He’s guaranteed to have McDavid, Drai, or Nuge as his centre.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Lucic is completely done and we will end up having to buy him or buy him out at same point. Neal had the worst season of his career and is likely going to bounce back and have a lot of opportunities with McDavid.

Absolutely atrocious trade for the Flames unless we got something like 50% retention and a 2nd.

 

[MikeGrier99]

This is a win for Calgary! Makes them tough af

Lucic is a big man but he plays like a mouse these days. One of the slowest players in the NHL no doubt.

 

[super6646]

Friedman says its 600k retained...

Flames save 350k cap, good amounts of ACTUAL money, and a contract that can't be brought out. Screams ownership...

 

[Kahvi]

Just someone tell me the retention% and pick coming back to Calgary so I know if I have to rage a bit or get really mad

 

[viper0220]

With this organization, it is one step forward and two steps back. I feel like this has been the case since 2005.

 

[Anglesmith]

I'm okay with this. Neal failed all year to show anything above what AHL tweeners provide. Lucic, despite being laughable for a long time in terms of production, does do some things well, and passed the eye test during BoAs when I was watching him.

I expect that retention will end up with us saving money. If not I go from okay with it to disappointed.

 

[Rangediddy]

What we give up:
Potential bounce back from Neal
Potentially a lost expansion draft protection spot

What we get:
"Threat" of toughness. I didn't buy that Lucic was a deterent in Edm, but McDavid is a tough kid on his own so maybe Johnny does benefit from Lucic being around
Cap space
Conditional Pick

I guess it's not the worst trade in the world to deal with when the cap space is so important. Just funny how Lucic has played for all the Western Canadian teams except for Vancouver!

 

[super6646]

Lucic is completely done and we will end up having to buy him or buy him out at same point. Neal had the worst season of his career and is likely going to bounce back and have a lot of opportunities with McDavid.

Absolutely atrocious trade for the Flames unless we got something like 50% retention and a 2nd.

600k retained. Virtually buyout proof contract thanks to those bonuses...

Great offseason for Tre so far. Can't imagine what the trade for Frolik will look like.

 

[Favin]

Lucic can at least play bottom six. Neal didn't click with any of our top six forwards, and is beyond useless on the third line. Even if he bounces back in Edmonton, he wouldn't here.

So if we can save a bit of cap and get a pick? I'm cool with it. The only thing is we need his NMC nullified so we don't have to protect him in expansion.

What do you mean by nullified? I don't think they can 'nullify' a NMC. Whatever clauses he signed with Edmonton would be applicable to Calgary as well.

 

[Calculon]

 

[Mobiandi]

This has been the offseason from hell

 

[InfinityIggy]

mfw Lucic bidding war

Maybe we are gonna trade him to Vancouver? Please?? Someone?

 

[Baxterman]

Fire Treliving right now.

I was a huge supporter of him before this but this is fireable trade in my view. Neal sucked and wasn't close to worth the money but Lucic is not an NHL quality player. He brings nothing of value with zero upside or chance to bounce back.

Effing terrible move.

Top 5 worst trade in franchise history and this is a franchise with a history of bad deals.

I would love nothing more than Lucic booed off the ice the first game of the season to show how unwanted he is here.

 

[Kranix]

I'm okay with this. Neal failed all year to show anything above what AHL tweeners provide. Lucic, despite being laughable for a long time in terms of production, does do some things well, and passed the eye test during BoAs when I was watching him.

I expect that retention will end up with us saving money. If not I go from okay with it to disappointed.

I came here thinking you were going to spin the positive and if you hadn't I was going to say, at least the putridly awful James Neal is gone, and that it would be hilarious if Lucic somehow exploded in 19/20.

 

[BobColesNasalCavity]

What the f***. Only 10% retained? You don’t let the Oilers off the hook of that co tract and if you are they better be retaining a lot more +.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Haha this is awful. Neal could score 30 goals playing with McDavid, that’s literally the biggest reason we should have not done this. We made the Oilers better.

Neal on the Flames will be similar players, were a little tougher but also slower. The Oilers are much better

 

[Boomstick]

Well, if Edmonton is sending us a 1st at least it'll be 1st overall, so that's not bad. lmao