Confirmed with Link: Flames name Brian Burke president of hockey operations

Anglesmith

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The sensitivity these days. Yeesh.

I just found the context pretty alarming. When you're the manager of a hockey club and you pay guys to play for your team, then being hard on them and criticizing them publicly absolutely has its place. When you are needlessly slandering a player after cutting him from a team, that is a completely different matter, in my opinion. I mean, generally, the sentiment around cutting players is to soften the blow as much as possible. Ryan never did anything to draw any kind of animosity from the USA organization, he's not an underperforming player on the team, he's not taking money out of their pockets, he hasn't even played an game in these Olympics in their sweater, and yet here is Brian Burke, representing team USA, completely dumping on a player after already being responsible for cutting him from his Olympic dream. I don't think it's about sensitivity, I think it's about professionalism.
 
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Flameshomer

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I just found the context pretty alarming. When you're the manager of a hockey club and you pay guys to play for your team, then being hard on them and criticizing them publicly absolutely has its place. When you are needlessly slandering a player after cutting him from a team, that is a completely different matter, in my opinion. I mean, generally, the sentiment around cutting players is to soften the blow as much as possible. Ryan never did anything to draw any kind of animosity from the USA organization, he's not an underperforming player on the team, he's not taking money out of their pockets, he hasn't even played an game in these Olympics in their sweater, and yet here is Brian Burke, representing team USA, completely dumping on a player after already being responsible for cutting him from his Olympic dream. I don't think it's about sensitivity, I think it's about professionalism.

You're misunderstanding what went on. Burke made these comments behind closed doors; it was hockey usa's understanding that they would get to vette what burnside was writing when clearly that didn't happen. It wasn't Burke slandering Ryan (publicly or otherwise) but rather him trying to convince the other gm's present Ryan didn't belong on the team, which is his job as part of the committee.
 

TheHudlinator

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You're misunderstanding what went on. Burke made these comments behind closed doors; it was hockey usa's understanding that they would get to vette what burnside was writing when clearly that didn't happen. It wasn't Burke slandering Ryan (publicly or otherwise) but rather him trying to convince the other gm's present Ryan didn't belong on the team, which is his job as part of the committee.

Not only that but Burke had Ryan on his team

“What goes on in the room should stay in the room. This is a characterization that on whole wasn’t actually what happened. Brian Burke drafted Bobby Ryan. Brian Burke when I asked all of our management to give me their final roster he had Bobby Ryan on his team. I’m not disputing what was said. A lot of it intense and passionate.

"For all the things that were said against Bobby Ryan there were many things that were said great about Bobby Ryan. I’m just sorry that this got out.”

"The problem, and the communication breakdown that we had, was we thought this was similar to HBO 24/7 situation where we had editorial review on what was going to be said. It caught all of us off guard."

Source: http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/01/03/team-usa-says-sorry-to-ottawa-senators-bobby-ryan

What he was saying behind closed doors was why Ryan could be left off but he still had him on his team. This whole thing has been blown way out of control by a **** writer.
 

MarkGio

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If true, Scott Burnside should be ashamed. Its bad for team USA, its really bad for Bobby Ryan, and its bad for the game in terms of relationships with players and management/ownership. Taking things out of context is bad journalism and gives reporters and media a bad name.
 

Anglesmith

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If true, Scott Burnside should be ashamed. Its bad for team USA, its really bad for Bobby Ryan, and its bad for the game in terms of relationships with players and management/ownership. Taking things out of context is bad journalism and gives reporters and media a bad name.

I agree. I didn't realize the context, I'm afraid.
 

Johnny Hoxville

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When Poille made his public apology to Ryan he said it his was impression they would of had control of the final edit, that didn't happen. They were discussing positives and negavitves about all players and it's unfortunate for hockey that went down the way it did period. Burke is a candid guy, and it's to bad that went public. Hopefully Ryan can take some peace of mind from the fact that he made Burkes final roster.
 

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