Proposal: Flames-Leafs

[Sparky93]

Pretty basic trade, nothing flashy.
Stone for Leivo

Leafs get a fairly significant upgrade on Polak. Stone is fairly physical, defensively sound and adds a huge cannon from the RD.

Not sure what the plans are for Leivo this year but he seems like sort of the odd man out, especially if they somehow sign or replace JVR. Seems like the kid has a solid all round skill set, that would fit nicely in the bottom 6.

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[ACC1224]

Sure, why not.

Leivo has zero value.

 

[Brobust]

Sure, why not.

Leivo has zero value.

Stone is basically a Polakesque player at this point. With 2 years left on his deal.

Are you prepared for that?

 

[Liferleafer]

Pass, Leivo has little value, but Stone has less when it comes to TO. We don't need another bottom pair D.

 

[Haatley]

Stone would be top 4 in Toronto.
No interest in a borderline NHLer in Leivo.
Flames pass.

 

[CraigsList]

Stone isn’t bottom pairing. He’s a middle pairing D who happens to be on a team that is behind Hamilton and Hamonic.

 

[Liferleafer]

Stone would be top 4 in Toronto.
No interest in a borderline NHLer in Leivo.
Flames pass.

As of right now....Rielly/Gardiner/Zaitsev/Hainsey...who's Stone bumping? Let me guess, Zaitsev? No thanks, would rather move Dermott up before moving assets for Stone.

 

[Sparky93]

I’d say Stone borders on being an elite bottom pairing defenseman, if there is such a thing, easily can play on a lot of teams middle pairing. Yes he is hands down much better than Polak and may even challenge Zaitsev or Hainsey for a spot. If we didn’t have Andersson pushing for a spot, he wouldn’t be on the table.

 

[Spirit of 67]

I think I'd rather have Leivo and give Holl a chance.

 

[rent free]

i'd do this easily as a leafs fan. stone is better than polak and leivo isn't that important of a player on this team. we are doing Calgary a favour as well by giving them an open spot on the 3rd for rasmus andersson

 

[Sparky93]

i'd do this easily as a leafs fan. stone is better than polak and leivo isn't that important of a player on this team. we are doing Calgary a favour as well by giving them an open spot on the 3rd for rasmus andersson

Not just that, but Hainsey isn’t getting any younger. At 37, his play could easily drop off a cliff, at any time.

 

[rent free]

Not just that, but Hainsey isn’t getting any younger. At 37, his play could easily drop off a cliff, at any time.

at this point its best for him to be playing bottom pairing minutes

 

[4thline]

Easy yes. Great 4-5 that could really upgrade our 2nd and 3rd pairings.

 

[Potty John]

I like this move, bottom 6 option for Calgary. Solid and reliable but a little overpaid RD for Toronto.

 

[tony d]

Stone'd be a heck of an add for Toronto, would cost them more than Leivo though.

 

[Sparky93]

I like this move, bottom 6 option for Calgary. Solid and reliable but a little overpaid RD for Toronto.

Ya, I always thought $2.9 million had a nice ring to it for Stone, so overpaid by about $600 000

 

[Brock Radunske]

I think if the Leafs want to shell out 3.5 mill a year, they could find a better player to invest in.

 

[Kybb79]

Stone would be top 4 in TO. 2nd round pick.

 

[Liferleafer]

I will say this, adding a 4-5 guy doesn't really help the Leafs....they need a partner for Rielly, then everyone shifts down to their rightful place:

Rielly-???
Gardiner-Hainsey/Zaitsev
Dermott-Hainsey/Zaitsev

Holl/Rosen/Borg/Carrick/Liljegren

 

[bukwas]

I think if the Leafs want to shell out 3.5 mill a year, they could find a better player to invest in.

I would definitely be looking into what other options were out there for 3.5 a year.

 

[QcFlames12]

I would want a pick added. Leivo is going to find himself on waivers with the Leafs depth, could easily be picked up there.

 

[Morgs]

Nope. Don't want to even give Babcock the chance to play a guy like Stone.

 

[4thline]

I will say this, adding a 4-5 guy doesn't really help the Leafs...

Replacing a 6-7 with a 4-5 does help a team, and if the cost is your 13th forward it's a no brainer.
With any progression from Dermott we could have a 2nd quality 3rd pair that can take some weight off Rielly. Or maybe Stone turns out to be a Hainsey upgrade.

 

[Haatley]

As of right now....Rielly/Gardiner/Zaitsev/Hainsey...who's Stone bumping? Let me guess, Zaitsev? No thanks, would rather move Dermott up before moving assets for Stone.

Lmao
Right. K.

 

[Liferleafer]

Replacing a 6-7 with a 4-5 does help a team, and if the cost is your 13th forward it's a no brainer.
With any progression from Dermott we could have a 2nd quality 3rd pair that can take some weight off Rielly. Or maybe Stone turns out to be a Hainsey upgrade.

Adding 3.5 in cap while still having a gaping hole on your top pair is counter productive. Stone isn't a big enough upgrade to warrant that IMO.