F Filip Zadina - Halifax Mooseheads, QMJHL (2018, 6th, DET)

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Rexor

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I've never seen a lot of flash in his game either. He's just smart, subtle and efficient.
 

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15 points in 10 games. More than Svechnikov even though he had never played on NA ice before. Of course he's a Czech prospect so that his thread is almost dead.
 
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15 points in 10 games. More than Svechnikov even though he had never played on NA ice before. Of course he's a Czech prospect so that his thread is almost dead.
We're happy with him in Halifax. He's strong on the boards plays a good physical game and buries his chances. Highlights don't paint a very clear picture of the players ability. Won't be much talk here until the haters come out. If you want chatter then compare him to someone. That can't help but get responses
 

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Czechs that come over to the CHL don't learn Czech hockey completely and then they don't have enough time to learn North American hockey when they are drafted and they get confused and it stunts their growth. Am I doing this right?
 

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15 points in 10 games. More than Svechnikov even though he had never played on NA ice before. Of course he's a Czech prospect so that his thread is almost dead.

I somewhat understood the lack of any hype for Necas last year. Playing in Europe, as a top prospect came "out of nowhere".
Zadina is quite the opposite though. He has been known for years now and plays in CHL, where he is doing well. On the other hand, more discussion and hype also brings more haters.
 

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Another 3 point game with 2 goals.

I somewhat understood the lack of any hype for Necas last year. Playing in Europe, as a top prospect came "out of nowhere".
Zadina is quite the opposite though. He has been known for years now and plays in CHL, where he is doing well. On the other hand, more discussion and hype also brings more haters.
I think he is hyped but suffers from the knock of being a winger and to a lesser extent a later birthday. I personally think he should be in the top 5 of this draft. This draft has a bunch of really good wingers though, and some will reach for centers, because bad teams are usually desperate for franchise centers.
 

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I somewhat understood the lack of any hype for Necas last year. Playing in Europe, as a top prospect came "out of nowhere".
Zadina is quite the opposite though. He has been known for years now and plays in CHL, where he is doing well. On the other hand, more discussion and hype also brings more haters.

Czech prospects generally tend to fly under the radar, at least over the last 10 years or so. The only semi-hyped one was Zacha and I thought it was mostly due to his father's PR skills. Though scouts were definitely intrigued by some of his tools too. He's a promising player for sure but he was attracting a lot more attention than all of his even more talented Czech peers combined.

In my opinion, non-Czechs don't expect that much from Czech players any more because our development was in shatters for a long time and it's been only recently improving. Young Czech players simply don't have the same allure as Finns, Swedes or Russians nowadays, and only a limited number of people is capable to watch junior players regularly and assess them objectively. And Czechs themselves, unlike Finns for example, tend to avoid hyping their own prospects.
 

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He is a lot different then the other big name Euros in playstyle. He doesn't exactly have that wow factor the second he hits the ice like Ehlers,Drouin and Mackinnon did but he seems like such a smart player and is always in the right positions to go along with a great shot.
 

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He also received a pretty bad (and pointless) hit the game before. Looks like the opponents are targeting him.
 

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I've watched most of Zadina's games this season.

He is excellent on his edges. The reason people such as Steve Kournianos and Sam Cosentino have made comparisons to Nico Hischier is primarily his ability to turn on a dime and control his motion in tight spaces with ease and precision.

That said, beyond that and their shared association with the Halifax Mooseheads, Zadina and Hischier are very different players.

Hischier's greatest attribute is his hockey IQ; while he tends to play a roaming, patient game, he always takes advantage of his quick acceleration and attacks the puck whenever he sees an opportunity to strike. He is fearless as well as aggressive, and he actively pressures the opposition on the forecheck. There is a sense of relentlessness in his game, and he hustles to get to loose pucks. He drives his line and knows when to hold on to the puck, when to pass the puck, and when to shoot.

Zadina is a much different player. He tends to let the play come to him, and he does not move his feet anywhere near as much as Hischier. There has been a lot of half-speed coasting in the games so far, and when his teammates don't have possession of the puck, he can have some fairly quiet shifts; when there are loose pucks, he is just late enough that the opponent gets to it first; rather than lay a hit and fight for possession, he sometimes just turns away. He has the ability to challenge the opposition and pressure them, but he does not do this as effectively as Hischier for two reasons: he lacks a little bit of the same explosiveness, and he also does not assess plays with the same keen eye or edge as Hischier. His ability to read plays is a notch below that of the Swiss star. In the defensive end, he has an itch to leave the zone early at times and is sometimes prone to turning the puck over with a bad pass or by holding on to the puck too long. There was one play against the Screaming Eagles, for example, where he tried to wind up with the puck from behind his own net and tried to beat the opposing forechecker, but instead turned it over and created a bit of havoc in his own zone.

His offensive skill set is quite impressive, and there are some who would contend that he has the best hands in the draft, although I think that point is debatable. His ability to weave around using his edges makes his body difficult to pinpoint when he wants to hang on to the puck and deke around the opponent; purely from a stick-handling perspective, I think Andrei Svechnikov is better at handling the puck from a standstill, although Zadina's ability to swivel and swerve around the opponent while keeping the puck makes him very slick in a different manner. Unlike players like Patrick Kane and Casey Mittelstadt who do quite a bit of stick-handling while standing still, Zadina's handling of a puck is more like Hischier's in the sense that his skating is as important, if not more important than his hands whenever he makes a one-on-one move against the opposition. He uses deceptive fakes and stutter-steps as well as his terrific agility to create opportunities in tight areas.

At 6'1'', 192 lbs, he has the strength and balance to keep the opponent off of him when he has possession of the puck, but I haven't seen a lot of physicality from him on the forecheck, and sometimes he'll let his teammates dig for the puck while he waits a few feet away in open ice. He isn't afraid to go to the front of the net or to go into high-traffic areas, and he knows how to maneuver into open space in the crease or anywhere where there is space between the opponent and the puck, but he also doesn't push hard enough to win a lot of battles; he has a tendency to stand around too much when teams are trying to fight for a loose puck. Unlike Hischier, who is 10 to 15 lbs lighter, he doesn't push hard enough -- he doesn't jam the net hard enough or compete with anywhere near the same intensity or determination. His work along the boards isn't physical in the aggressive sense, but is more about putting himself in the right position to separate the opponent and the opponent a la Cody Glass.

He is a shooter. He doesn't have a world-class shot, but he loves to put the puck on net and has a tendency to cut into the middle to change his shooting angle, holding on until he sees something; he can also distribute the puck, but as I mentioned, he sometimes makes errant passes that result in turnovers. While he is skilled, he makes questionable decisions with defensive consequences; that has to be fixed before teams will ever trust him at the NHL level. Based on his current play, he isn't NHL-ready from a defensive point of view. Last year's draft had a plethora of high-end, two-way players; a few of those players were NHL-ready from a defensive perspective, and they were able to join the NHL right away. At the moment, Zadina is a thoroughly one-way player who has to clean up his game quite a bit.

Zadina started the year on a line with Arnaud Durandeau and Raphael Lavoie. Ever since Otto Somppi's return against Cape Breton five games ago on October 13, 2017, Zadina has been lined up alongside Somppi and Durandeau. The team's other top line consists of Connor Moynihan with B.O. Groulx and Maxime Fortier.

The presence of Somppi, who is a lightning-fast, skilled line driver has had a very positive impact on Zadina. The right half-wall tends to be where Zadina operates from on the powerplay.

He leads all draft-eligible players in scoring right now with 11 goals, 10 assists, 21 points in 13 games (1.615 points per game). He is very skilled and quite creative, but he has quite a few bad habits in his game right now.
 
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Note: This project is inspired by some of the work done on HFBoards last season to chronicle the performances of some of the top draft-eligible prospects for that campaign. This is a continuation of that series in the same style and format. Hopefully, by offering an early glimpse of some of this season's top prospects, viewers can follow them throughout their draft season with a better sense of who they are.

FILIP ZADINA: FIVE-GAME SCOUTING PACK (2017-18 QMJHL SEASON)




For those of you unfamiliar with Filip Zadina, he is one of the top-ranked players available in the 2018 NHL Draft. A skilled, agile, 6'1'', 192 lbs winger from the Czech Republic, Zadina has been on scouting radars for quite a long time. Most scouting services have him firmly ranked in their preseason Top 10 and a few have him in their Top 5, but with his hot start so far in his rookie season with the Halifax Mooseheads, he may be a Top 5 staple by the time of the mid-season rankings.

Rankings so far:

Dobber Prospects (Oct. 4): #5
Hockey Prospect (Sept. 27): #6
Corey Pronman (Sept. 26): #9
Bob McKenzie (Sept. 13): #7
NACS (Sept. 11): #7
Craig Button (Sept. 5): #10
Future Considerations (Sept. Edition): #3
The Draft Analyst (Sept. 5): #3

Originally drafted fourth-overall in the 2016 CHL Import Draft by the Vancouver Giants, he opted last year to play another season in the Czech player development system.

http://theprovince.com/sports/hocke...dina-might-be-too-good-for-whl-clubs-own-good
Giants prospect Zadina might be too good for WHL club's own good
Steve Ewen
Published: August 14, 2016
Updated: August 14, 2016 6:40 PM PDT

Vancouver Giants prospect Filip Zadina was one of the stars of last week’s Ivan Hlinka Memorial Cup, which is a plus and a minus for the WHL club.

The winger the Giants used the fourth overall pick on in June’s CHL Import Draft has game-breaker talents. That’s become abundantly obvious. Zadina had a pair of markers Saturday to help the tournament host Czech Republic edge the U.S. 4-3 in the Hlinka final, and the 16-year-old finished tied for the goal-scoring lead in the Under-18 tournament with five tallies in four games.

Giants owner Ron Toigo admits that Zadina has told his club that he has his sights set on playing in the Czech pro league this season and it’s easy to wonder if the 6-foot, 190-pounder might be good enough to do so. He played in a pair of games last season as a call-up with HC Pardubice.

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In 2017, he was drafted again in the CHL Import Draft, this time eleventh-overall by the Halifax Mooseheads. Zadina opted to join the Mooseheads for the 2017-18 QMJHL season and has been one of the league's hottest scorers so far with 11 goals, 10 assists, 21 points in the first 14 games of the campaign. As of today, October 24, 2017, he is tied for second in QMJHL point scoring with Mika Cyr, and is three points behind Drake Batherson's league-leading 24 points.

He began the season on a line with Raphael Lavoie and Arnaud Durandeau, but since October 13, 2017, the date of Otto Somppi's return to the Mooseheads lineup, he has played alongside Durandeau and Somppi.

This five-game scouting pack features every shift from five of Zadina's performances from the first month of the 2017-18 QMJHL season.

The games featured (and corresponding time stamps) are:

(0:15) 2017-09-30: Halifax Mooseheads vs Acadie-Bathurst Titans
(22:22) 2017-10-01: Halifax Mooseheads vs Charlottetown Islanders
(44:30) 2017-10-08: Halifax Mooseheads vs Blainville-Boisbriand Armada
(1:13:15) 2017-10-13: Halifax Mooseheads @ Cape Breton Screaming Eagles
(1:40:01) 2017-10-17: Halifax Mooseheads vs Moncton Wildcats

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There were threads similar to this last season. I think, based on the amount of work placed into preparing this two-hour package, the video should at the very least should warrant its own thread. Everyone else with anything substantial to offer is allowed to present their content in their own dedicated threads.
Nothing against it of course, it looks great. I watch all his games so I didn’t need to watch it all but the first few minutes looked good. Nice job.
 

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Ok, im not a hockey guru. Could someone post here a brief scouting report? and also with reference to the video, like "watch 1:04, he made this great". Or he did this very bad....
 
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