TheeNorthStar
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It its this or Fiala being traded, I vote SEA taking Matt for nothing.More like welcome to Seattle Dumba.
It its this or Fiala being traded, I vote SEA taking Matt for nothing.More like welcome to Seattle Dumba.
Don't you think using his points per game percentage in an abbreviated season would be a more accurate depiction of what really happened?That’s a lot of term and money for a guy with a career high of 30 points. Guerin strikes again
Who is Cotourier and what exactly is an offensive tool kit?I'm alright with this. Expected 5.5/8. Think people will always be pissed off he doesnt put up more points, but I don't think this is bad value, just okay. No real potential there for him to be the next Cotourier, he's never shown any kind of offensive toolkit.
You're under the impression the "Guerin can't do anything right" crowd cares about representing things accurately.Don't you think using his points per game percentage in an abbreviated season would be a more accurate depiction of what really happened?
This contract now makes those expectations unacceptableI suspect that Guerin loved the way JEE played against Vegas in the playoffs, and the fact that he is basically the only C of note that we have made it imperative that we sign him. Unlike Coyle, JEE doesn't seem to be the sort of guy to disappear for long stretches of time, either. If he actually gains some confidence in his shot and continues to produce points this contract will be a steal, but all i expect from him is 35-40 pts, tough play, and great defense.
As lukewarm as I am to this deal I'll admit that his play against Vegas has me feeling pretty optimistic about it in a vacuum. I don't even hate only getting 40 points out of him considering those are likely to be mostly even-strength points played against very good competition. It's unlikely that this will turn into an albatross a la Wennberg and he could well get better over the next few seasons.I suspect that Guerin loved the way JEE played against Vegas in the playoffs, and the fact that he is basically the only C of note that we have made it imperative that we sign him. Unlike Coyle, JEE doesn't seem to be the sort of guy to disappear for long stretches of time, either. If he actually gains some confidence in his shot and continues to produce points this contract will be a steal, but all i expect from him is 35-40 pts, tough play, and great defense.
Parise's deal has nothing to do with it for me. It's yet another Guerin deal where the player is going to have to be better than he ever has been just to make it a fair deal. You can't survive in a cap world when you're doing that with every contract you give out.It's also obviously a deal that looks a tad different if it isn't under the shadow of Parise's hanging over the team.
Parise's deal has nothing to do with it for me. It's yet another Guerin deal where the player is going to have to be better than he ever has been just to make it a fair deal. You can't survive in a cap world when you're doing that with every contract you give out.
How "expected" is it that he becomes a $5.25M player though? What kind of player does he have to become to justify overpaying him right now?Yeah, but at least with this one (compared to Spurgeon's) he doesn't have that far to reach and it's at an age range where it's not unexpected to happen. So, progress, I guess.
How "expected" is it that he becomes a $5.25M player though? What kind of player does he have to become to justify overpaying him right now?
Going to be hard to improve his offense and stay in the Selke conversation. This deal kills the Greenway-Ek-Foligno line. I do wonder who they're projecting him to play with going forward?I'd say reasonably expected, but I also suspect that I think he's currently closer to it than you do.
Last two seasons he has 36 and 41 ES points, respectively. Bring that up and hold in the ~45+ range, and stay in the top ~7-10 range in the Selke conversation, and I think he's there.
Going to be hard to improve his offense and stay in the Selke conversation. This deal kills the Greenway-Ek-Foligno line. I do wonder who they're projecting him to play with going forward?
Care to expand on why that line is now dead?
Nobody in their right mind pays anyone $5.25M a year to play with Marcus Foligno.Well, he improved his offense and got into the Selke conversation this year. I'm sure it wasn't easy to do, but that doesn't make the next step impossible.
Care to expand on why that line is now dead?
Nobody in their right mind pays anyone $5.25M a year to play with Marcus Foligno.
Ek is a very good defensive player, but let's keep it real, he isn't in any Selke conversation if he plays the year between Kap/Zuccarello or Fiala/Parise.
Or Guerin is willing to pay to send Parise away to be bought out by another team.Signaling Dumba/Fiala gone is clear, but it also means there’s not room for a Greenway increase coming as well. Paying your third line center $5+m not withstanding of course.