Rumor: Erik Karlsson Mega Thread II - All rumors/speculation/proposals go here

[Answer]

He isn't a great defenseman. I could move Matthews into a D role and he would likely have similar results if not better

He rest his case! Please don't argue with him. His intellectual level is way too high for us all.

 

[Notsince67]

His possession numbers literally aren’t better

EV CF%
0.527628032 Doughty
0.509243111 Karlsson

They literally are

 

[VoluntaryDom]

EV CF%
0.527628032 Doughty
0.509243111 Karlsson

They literally are

Yikes corsi

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

The longer this goes the better because usually by this point in july the big deals are done, the rosters are basically set.

This adds intrigue

 

[Iceman]

He isn't a great defenseman. I could move Matthews into a D role and he would likely have similar results if not better

You can spin the word "defenseman" any way you want, he is a more impactful player than Doughty so I don't see why he shouldn't get paid just as much.

 

[Notsince67]

Yikes corsi

 

[CupInSIX]

The longer this goes the better because usually by this point in july the big deals are done, the rosters are basically set.

This adds intrigue

I don't know. Seems Montreal, Carolina and CBJ are waiting on the Karlsson trade to move their 1st line wingers...

 

[VoluntaryDom]

There are far superior possession metrics, is my point

 

[Kranix]

Many Ottawa fans will tell you that he isn't great defensively. I think Karlsson is really good. I just think he is overvalued. If Doughty is worth 11, he might be worth 9.5 to 10

You didn't answer all of my questions.

 

[LordZapp]

Erik karlsson - EV CF% 56.7
Drew doughty - EV CF% 54.9

Erik Karlsson NHL Advanced Statistics (All) | Hockey-Reference.com
Drew Doughty Stats | Hockey-Reference.com

No they really aren't.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Your “easier ice time” argument doesn’t work as Karlsson has a 1.17 Berkshire difficulty index compared to 1.16 for Doughty, pretty close.

Also uh

 

[Agent Zub]

My statement was that Doughty is the best defenseman in the league. He is used in all situations, not just to score

Lol Karlsson has played entire last 5 minutes of games when Ottawa has been up by one.

You have a fundamentally poor understanding of hockey.

Would you take Toews over Crosby as well?

 

[LordZapp]

Lol Karlsson has played entire last 5 minutes of games when Ottawa has been up by one.

You have aa fundamentally poor understanding of hockey.

Would you take Toews over Crosby as well?

Those intangibles

 

[Notsince67]

You didn't answer all of my questions.

ok

You have played a bit of D, so you'd know who the good defensemen are. However, you are a massive Leafs homer with an anti-Karlsson agenda. Why do you choose this path in life? Do you look like your Wendell avatar all the time, just more red-faced?

Answer to first and second question:
This is not thread that talks about how much of a god Karlsson is. If people say he is the best dman in the league, I have a right to disagree. This isn't a path in life. it is an opinion that I have used stats to back up. People are entitled to their opinion but they don't show any evidence
Answer to second question: I really don't want to respond to personal attacks. perhaps you should

 

[Iceman]

ok

Answer to first and second question:
This is not thread that talks about how much of a god Karlsson is. If people say he is the best dman in the league, I have a right to disagree. This isn't a path in life. it is an opinion that I have used stats to back up. People are entitled to their opinion but they don't show any evidence
Answer to second question: I really don't want to respond to personal attacks. perhaps you should

Look... we would accept it if you stated your opinion and moved on but you keep at it, clearly with an agenda.

 

[Notsince67]

Lol Karlsson has played entire last 5 minutes of games when Ottawa has been up by one.

You have a fundamentally poor understanding of hockey.

Would you take Toews over Crosby as well?

Are you asking for a breakdown of these guys now? FYI, I know a lot of people who would choose Doughty over Karlsson. I am not sure why this is controversial. Karlsson wants Doughty money and I don't think he is worth it

 

[Notsince67]

Look... we would accept it if you stated your opinion and moved on but you keep at it, clearly with an agenda.

Do you own this thread?

 

[Scott Stevens]

What are you talking about? Reilly is already the best defenseman in the league.

Thought it was a three way toss up between Reilly, Dermott, and Liljegren.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Look... we would accept it if you stated your opinion and moved on but you keep at it, clearly with an agenda.

I feel ya. It's so annoying when people state their opinion and then stick around to defend it when challenged. Don't they know this is a discussion forum?

 

[Qward]

Karlsson has more teeth.

 

[naruto]

Tampa getting karlsson would be pretty good. We know he cant play defense. To be called a defenceman you should be able to play atleast somewhat decently defensively. Karlsson legit makes me cringe. Go for it Tampa!

 

[Langdon Alger]

Tampa getting karlsson would be pretty good. We know he cant play defense. To be called a defenceman you should be able to play atleast somewhat decently defensively. Karlsson legit makes me cringe. Go for it Tampa!

Is it 2014 again?

 

[Kcoyote3]

Has he been traded, or is the Zajac NTC still the hold up

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Have to applaud the writer of this piece for his sense of humor.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Tampa getting karlsson would be pretty good. We know he cant play defense. To be called a defenceman you should be able to play atleast somewhat decently defensively. Karlsson legit makes me cringe. Go for it Tampa!

Lol
Ya 2 Norris trophies, twice runner up, heard some stat during conference final he was on the ice for only 1 or 2 goals in first 2 rounds.
How many Norris trophies do your Leafs have, or have in their history,
Leafs have zero Norris trophies in over 100 years,, couldn’t even get one when there were 6 teams, should of gotten about 2 per decade with 6 teams.