Injury Report: Erik Gudbranson to undergo shoulder surgery.

[ATypicalCanadian]

 

[me2]

A wounded Guddy is a dangerous Guddy. Don't underestimate that value Eddie

I must have missed those 4 months.

 

[VanillaCoke]

When it rains it pours

 

[Zombotron]

He'll be back to 3rd-overall calibre after the surgery! You'll see!!!!

 

[Kryten]

Erik made 7m over two years for 3 goals and 8 assists in 82/164 games. Somehow gets a multi year deal and a raise to boot. f*** me

 

[lawrence]

when it rains it pisses bricks.

 

[Grub]

6 Months? Wtf are they even thinking resigning this goon if they knew about the injury. My god, this management team.

 

[Nuckles]

Seriously. How the **** does this management make themselves look bad time and time again. This is beyond hilarious.

 

[F A N]

Erik made 7m over two years for 3 goals and 8 assists in 82/164 games. Somehow gets a multi year deal and a raise to boot. **** me

It's even better to be a relief pitcher in MLB.

 

[Wo Yorfat]

That couldn't possibly do a better job representing about 10% of the posters on here. Absolutely perfect.

 

[Kryten]

It's even better to be a relief pitcher in MLB.

Somewhere between that and Brodeurs backup

 

[VanJack]

This is a six month operation and healing process....guy won't even be available to start next regular season.....explains why Jimbo couldn't trade him and had to extend him or lose him for nothing.....I suppose he might generate LTIR cap relieve early next season......potentially more valuable to the Canucks than him actually playing.....addition by subtraction.

 

[RobertKron]

“Lose” him.

 

[ProstheticConscience]

Wait a second, we knew he was hurt and still signed him to an extension?

Uh...yep.

f*** this team.

 

[me2]

This is a six month operation and healing process....guy won't even be available to start next regular season.....explains why Jimbo couldn't trade him and had to extend him or lose him for nothing.....I suppose he might generate LTIR cap relieve early next season......potentially more valuable to the Canucks than him actually playing.....addition by subtraction.

LTIR cap relief generates nothing.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Good for next year's tank.

 

[Intangibos]

This is a six month operation and healing process....guy won't even be available to start next regular season.....explains why Jimbo couldn't trade him and had to extend him or lose him for nothing.....I suppose he might generate LTIR cap relieve early next season......potentially more valuable to the Canucks than him actually playing.....addition by subtraction.

I could have sworn we had these discussions about how LTIR works 8 years ago

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

Was Guddy's extension a Newport Joint?

A real Gud conspiracy theory...

The Provies: The refs thing, the Hutton thing, MDZ props, Conspiracies and the wild Guddy origin story

 

[tyhee]

Was Guddy's extension a Newport Joint?

A real Gud conspiracy theory...

The Provies: The refs thing, the Hutton thing, MDZ props, Conspiracies and the wild Guddy origin story

I don't place any credence in the Newport conspiracy suggestion, but the rest of the "Best myth buster" portion of that article is a great read and the article from hockey-graphs mentioned in it about the effect of hits given and received on NHL longevity should be a must-read for general managers and those that comment on their decisions. It makes the Dorsett extension in 2015 look even sillier than it otherwise would and makes this Gudbranson extension really bad (though this is just piling on as the extension was ridiculous anyway.)

That hockey-graphs article is at Big Deals for Big Hitters: How Physical Players Age

 

[VanillaCoke]

The money puck analysis and subsequent Trades florida made and seemingly benefited greatly from are extremely interesting and an excellent example of value and asset management

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

I don't place any credence in the Newport conspiracy suggestion, but the rest of the "Best myth buster" portion of that article is a great read and the article from hockey-graphs mentioned in it about the effect of hits given and received on NHL longevity should be a must-read for general managers and those that comment on their decisions. It makes the Dorsett extension in 2015 look even sillier than it otherwise would and makes this Gudbranson extension really bad (though this is just piling on as the extension was ridiculous anyway.)

That hockey-graphs article is at Big Deals for Big Hitters: How Physical Players Age

I thought it was an enjoyable trip down the rabbit hole myself. But then, I do enjoy a good conspiracy.

What did you make of the Money Puck Nov 2015 forum post/Cam Lawrence Florida origin theory?

I'm looking forward to seeing what people here make of this theory.

 

[tyhee]

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What did you make of the Money Puck Nov 2015 forum post/Cam Lawrence Florida origin theory?

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Florida had hired Lawrence who had published an article about the declining worth of physical players and at the very least Lawrence would have expressed his views. It's impossible to tell how much of a part that played in them moving Gudbranson but I think Botchford has a point. It probably played a part and possibly a large part.

 

[VanillaCoke]

Optics certainly seem to indicate it played quite an enormous part in their subsequent trades. Seemingly with a far more positive outcome and quite correct evaluations of the players they lost amd acquired

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

Florida had hired Lawrence who had published an article about the declining worth of physical players and at the very least Lawrence would have expressed his views. It's impossible to tell how much of a part that played in them moving Gudbranson but I think Botchford has a point. It probably played a part and possibly a large part.

It does seem that way doesn't it. And I'm sure I have seen a couple of people around here piece together parts of this before. I don't remember who they were off hand; maybe they'll resurface when they read the article. It is interesting isn't it.

 

[justafan22]

He had shoulder surgery in 2012 so it's concerning that it's #2 for him.