Confirmed with Link: Erik Cole & cond. 3rd ('15) for 2nd ('15) + Mattias Backman + Mattias Janmark
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ArGarBarGar
What do we want!? Unfair!
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InjuredChoker
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if it were just on holland, i think he would've stood pat.
i'm 99% sure that babcock pushed harder for this deals than holland did.
i'm 99% sure that babcock pushed harder for this deals than holland did.
Dotter
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None of the kids he's referring to were traded.
Okay, lets trade him then...
I get he's down on the depth chart now, but damn, trade him for a 36+ y/o rental that likely won't increase our playoff chances?
What a waste.
Pavels Dog
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A couple of months can make a huge difference in the world of prospects. Babcock assumed Backman would stay in the AHL all year and develop. Instead he gave up and returned home. Meanwhile, Marchenko, XO and Jensen were nothing but impressive. 1+1 equals Backman's gone.Okay, lets trade him then...
I get he's down on the depth chart now, but damn, trade him for a 36+ y/o rental that likely won't increase our playoff chances?
What a waste.
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obey86
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He said that awhile ago. Then Backman had a fit about not playing enough in the AHL and went to Sweden and the Wings gave up on him.
Basically if you're a Wings prospect and you want to get traded, just threaten to go home to Sweden and you're gone by the deadline.
Babcock said those comments back in May, that was after Backman had a good playoff performance for the Griffins. Backman would have played a lot more this season if he was committed to getting better. He wasn't. The Red Wings don't want those types of players.
Okay, I'm glad to see I'm not crazy/alone in thinking this is a weak as hell apology. If Benn had any inclination, he could suck it up and find Z's phone number and make a call. Let's just say some on another site have no problems as long as it's an "honest" apology. Whatever that means.
probertrules24
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Okay, lets trade him then...
I get he's down on the depth chart now, but damn, trade him for a 36+ y/o rental that likely won't increase our playoff chances?
What a waste.
Do you not recall Kindl's first camp when many quotes were made about him making the team and being the last sent down. Things change.
The Zetterberg Era
Ball Hockey Sucks
Poor Mitch Callahan and Landon Ferraro, guess they should still find a way to threaten to go to Sweden.
Honestly Backman had a huge cheerleader in Babcock. He either read the clippings or I don't know what but he deserved what he got this year. He wasn't very good, hopefully he got his wakeup call and helps Jim Nill in the future.
Jim Nill probably won't be fired, but his honeymoon phase is going to be in big trouble if their D is that awful again next year. He lacks the two way forwards to make up for the sorry group he has put together too. Lots to fix in Dallas.
Should he have stayed here, rotting on the Griffins bench instead? Didn't seem to have much to hope for this year, considering the competition he faced.
So, I'm still feeling him to go back for the benefit of playing. And hopefully that trade gives him another opportunity on a rebuilt Stars team. Even if the chances are slim right now.
People forget Dallas has a long list of defensive prospects as well. Backman is jammed in that group and won't stand much better chance of seeing NHL ice. Without looking it up, I'd say Backman is like... 8? 9? Maybe less on their depth list. Kid has some work to do. This isn't like Jarnkok going to Nashville.
And this is a bit off topic, but if I'm Nill, I have no idea who you sell anymore. All the expendable assets are gone in the Spezza and Seguin trade. So you're left with a bunch of guys that nobody really wants or that you need to stay afloat.
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mindfly
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TheOtherOne
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Hm, 70s seem weird. Has it been a long time since Wings have had a number in the 70s, or is it just me?
KJoe88
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Okay, lets trade him then...
I get he's down on the depth chart now, but damn, trade him for a 36+ y/o rental that likely won't increase our playoff chances?
What a waste.
Cole is still very good player; fringe/serviceable top six and/or excellent third liner.
You're being ridiculous about both trades, man...
Honestly, if Cole plays well, I see KH signing him again.
It has been a quite a while since seeing that number for the last time.
Other than that:
#71 Wendel Clark, Jiri Slegr, Daniel Cleary (wore it before #11)
#77 Paul Coffey
Other than that:
#71 Wendel Clark, Jiri Slegr, Daniel Cleary (wore it before #11)
#77 Paul Coffey
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His number from Juniors, apparently. Know he used to wear 26, but Jurco has it for Detroit.
KJoe88
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Kronwalled55
Detroit vs. Everybody
I think Dallas will be aces in a couple seasons.
Great core of forwards.
Seguin - 22 yrs old
Spezza - 31 and still playing great hockey
Ja. Benn - 25
Pesky depth that can contribute
Garbutt
Roussel
Daley
Eakin
Klingberg is probably overachieving, but he might be a very good player for years to come. It's just Goligoski is awful IMO and he's playing too many minutes and too big of a role for them. I think their D and goaltending is very fixable in reasonable time.
