Prospect Info: Elias Salomonsson, 2022 NHL Draft, #55 Overall

[lomiller1]

Really liked Salomonsson's play in the first CHL game. Here's a clip of part of his first shift (#44). Starts with a tight gap forcing a turnover, but then a really nice example of puck movement, using his feet / agility to escape the first wave, and then a crisp pass to set up the transition. A good example of his strengths as a D.

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very nice sequence for him

 

[Atoyot]

Salomonsson plays at 11am tomorrow, for those interested in watching.

 

[Atoyot]

Full Match | Skellefteå AIK vs Dynamo Pardubice | Regular Season | Game Day 2

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Fun familiar face on the Czech team, with Jan Kostalek playing top pairing, #33.

Salomonsson with a beautiful assist, Hugg as well with a very nice secondary assist.

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

I'm glad Chevy is apt at catching falling talent.
Lambert is the best example of this but there are other high picks of Chevy's that could have gone much earlier without being considered a reach.

A few no brainers in early first round. But not any gems outside of top 15 picks.

 

[Atoyot]

A few no brainers in early first round. But not any gems outside of top 15 picks.

What time frame are you talking about? Connor, Helle, Copp, Lowry all outside the top 15.

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

What time frame are you talking about? Connor, Helle, Copp, Lowry all outside the top 15.

None of these were high picks though.

 

[Atoyot]

None of these were high picks though.

Sorry, I'm not understanding what you're trying to say.

 

[Flair Hay]

Sorry, I'm not understanding what you're trying to say.

I think he is saying we have sucked in the 20-30 range and that our failures there and our successes later in mid rounds aren't the same?

Our hidden gems have all been mid rounds not later 1sts

 

[WolfHouse]

I think he is saying we have sucked in the 20-30 range and that our failures there and our successes later in mid rounds aren't the same?

Our hidden gems have all been mid rounds not later 1sts

Have we had a late round hit since Geise left?

 

[None]

Have we had a late round hit since Geise left?

Max Giese only left last year. A single draft without him thus far.

Personally I wasn't super thrilled with our 2023 draft past the 1st round, not that we had many picks.

 

[Whileee]

I think he is saying we have sucked in the 20-30 range and that our failures there and our successes later in mid rounds aren't the same?

Our hidden gems have all been mid rounds not later 1sts

Samberg and Salomonsson look like they could be good 2nd pair D, picked in round 2.

 

[Flair Hay]

Samberg and Salomonsson look like they could be good 2nd pair D, picked in round 2.

Absolutely.

 

[WolfHouse]

Max Giese only left last year. A single draft without him thus far.

Personally I wasn't super thrilled with our 2023 draft past the 1st round, not that we had many picks.

Hmm I thought he left before covid... I guess there's only Mark Hillier to blame for our average drafting then.

 

[surixon]

Samberg and Salomonsson look like they could be good 2nd pair D, picked in round 2.

Salomonsson imo has a shot at first pair if his offense develops as I think it can.

Snerg looks poised for the second paring.

Hopefully Heinola breaks out and is able to get to top 4.

Wouldn't this be nice in the future:

JoMo Salomonsson
Snerg Heinola
Chisholm xxx

 

[Atoyot]

Salomonsson imo has a shot at first pair if his offense develops as I think it can.

Snerg looks poised for the second paring.

Hopefully Heinola breaks out and is able to get to top 4.

Wouldn't this be nice in the future:

JoMo Salomonsson
Snerg Heinola
Chisholm xxx

Salomonsson and Chisholm are pretty similar. I think Chisholm has about the same odds as Salomonsson to become a top 4.

 

[surixon]

Salomonsson and Chisholm are pretty similar. I think Chisholm has about the same odds as Salomonsson to become a top 4.

Yeah I can see that. I'd say Salmonsson is more advanced in his own end at a similar age though which, that plus being a RD elevates his likelihood of cracking our top 4.

 

[lomiller1]

Samberg and Salomonsson look like they could be good 2nd pair D, picked in round 2.

Samberg is 24, he's pretty close to being whatever it is he's going to be. Second pair isn't out of the question, but he was heavily sheltered last year, so we don't really know how he'll adapt to second pair min.

Salomonsson just turned 19 a couple days ago, if he'd been born a few weeks later he'd have been eligible for the 2023 draft. IMO he has the tools to be a top pair RHD and that's what we should be hoping for out of him.

 

[Whileee]

Samberg is 24, he's pretty close to being whatever it is he's going to be. Second pair isn't out of the question, but he was heavily sheltered last year, so we don't really know how he'll adapt to second pair min.

Salomonsson just turned 19 a couple days ago, if he'd been born a few weeks later he'd have been eligible for the 2023 draft. IMO he has the tools to be a top pair RHD and that's what we should be hoping for out of him.

You might be right about Samberg, but my view is that he was ready to make an impact earlier in his career, and certainly this season.

Even adjusting for his usage and opponents, his performance was outstanding (see below). He was also very strong in the playoffs, in my view.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Samberg is 24, he's pretty close to being whatever it is he's going to be. Second pair isn't out of the question, but he was heavily sheltered last year, so we don't really know how he'll adapt to second pair min.

Salomonsson just turned 19 a couple days ago, if he'd been born a few weeks later he'd have been eligible for the 2023 draft. IMO he has the tools to be a top pair RHD and that's what we should be hoping for out of him.

Berg is what he is skill wise, but can still grow from confidence and confidence team has in him.

 

[ps241]

Samberg is 24, he's pretty close to being whatever it is he's going to be. Second pair isn't out of the question, but he was heavily sheltered last year, so we don't really know how he'll adapt to second pair min.

Salomonsson just turned 19 a couple days ago, if he'd been born a few weeks later he'd have been eligible for the 2023 draft. IMO he has the tools to be a top pair RHD and that's what we should be hoping for out of him.

You might be right about Samberg, but my view is that he was ready to make an impact earlier in his career, and certainly this season.

Even adjusting for his usage and opponents, his performance was outstanding (see below). He was also very strong in the playoffs, in my view.

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My take on Samberg is that he was slow played.

I believe Dylan has the ability to defend at a top 4 level “comfortably” and I think he is already better defensively than Schmidt, Pionk, and Stanley. His 4 way mobility, neutral zone angles and pressure, gap control, pivots, retrieval, stick, and D technique in general are all really sound fundamentally. That’s his strength.

Where I am less sure will be in puck security, first pass selection, avoiding loose handling gaffs, and brain farts. I believe he can adapt to the next level of pressure he just needs to keep it simple.

Looking forward to watching him step up in competition.

 

[Jets]

I'm glad Chevy is apt at catching falling talent.
Lambert is the best example of this but there are other high picks of Chevy's that could have gone much earlier without being considered a reach.

Yeah so glad he spent high picks on Stanley, Vesalainen, Jack Glover, Nic Petan, Lukas Sutter, Luke Green, Jimmy Lodge and Daniel Torgersson

 

[Mud Turtle]

Yeah so glad he spent high picks on Stanley, Vesalainen, Jack Glover, Nic Petan, Lukas Sutter, Luke Green, Jimmy Lodge and Daniel Torgersson

I have no problem with him taking Petan in the 2nd round. It was a good gamble.
If Petan would have adjusted his game just a bit, I think he would have been a very useful player to have on the team. Someone who could move up and down the lineup easily.
He had all the talent he needed.

 

[Cypruss]

Yeah so glad he spent high picks on Stanley, Vesalainen, Jack Glover, Nic Petan, Lukas Sutter, Luke Green, Jimmy Lodge and Daniel Torgersson

Big year for Torgersson this year to get him off your shit list. I think there is still hope there.

 

[Flair Hay]

I have no problem with him taking Petan in the 2nd round. It was a good gamble.
If Petan would have adjusted his game just a bit, I think he would have been a very useful player to have on the team. Someone who could move up and down the lineup easily.
He had all the talent he needed.

Oh for sure. He just needed to look at Perreault and how he played to know what to do. He just played like 5'9 Joe Thornton unfortunately.

 

[Jets]

Big year for Torgersson this year to get him off your shit list. I think there is still hope there.

Not really my shit list, just trying to be realistic. I had/have high hopes for all of them when we picked them as well, but the statement that Chevy has been good at extracting gems from the "later" high picks (in my mind 20ish-80ish overall) simply isn't true. We're no better or worse than any other team there, and quite frankly our 2nd and 3rd round picks have mostly been below average. We haven't turned anyone in that range into a Jason Robertson or a Brayden Point. You can also add Serville, Kosmachuk, Foley, and hopefully not but maybe soon Simon Lundmark to the list of late 1st - 2nd - 3rd rounders that we got little to no NHL value out of.

If anything, we've been slightly better than average at finding useful players in the late rounds (Copp, Hellebuyck, Appleton, Poolman, Chisholm, Gawanke, etc.)

As a whole our drafting has been solid but unremarkable. The notion from the earlier years that we are some stalwart drafting team is a bit of a misnomer. The front office has hit on most of their top 20 picks, but have a totally mixed bag on the ones just after. For a team like us, we almost have to be extracting more value than most teams in every single draft in order to keep our handicapped player talent pool as deep and wide as possible.