Aerchon
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Purcell has not been bad, but I would also say not great.
However, I would still take him over Gagner because he can and does win puck battles.
Confirmed with Link: [EDM/TBL] Sam Gagner For Teddy Purcell; Then TBL Trades Gagner to ARZ Part II
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Purcell has not been bad, but I would also say not great.
However, I would still take him over Gagner because he can and does win puck battles.
Supermassive
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Purcell 11GP 1G 4A 5Pts 0PIM -7
Gagner 11GP 1G 2A 3Pts 8PIM -4
It's like a snail race.
worraps if you want to forward me a list of things you hate, I can get started on your avatar.
Gagner 11GP 1G 2A 3Pts 8PIM -4
It's like a snail race.
worraps if you want to forward me a list of things you hate, I can get started on your avatar.
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McGlassbangers
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There's one massive difference between Purcell and Gagner. Purcell doesn't fall on his ass every single time somebody skates past him.
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Gagner with another goal tonight in first period and 4pts and counting in last 6games.
Was one of the best Yotes on the ice in the last game and continuing where he left off tonight.
Was one of the best Yotes on the ice in the last game and continuing where he left off tonight.
KeithIsActuallyBad
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Supermassive
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McShogun99
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I know that everyone hates Gagner on here but i've stated numerous times that we never should have traded him unless we had another center lined up. Every year in his career he's posted top to mid end 2nd line center number (finishing between 18th to 50th amongst NHL centers). We know that Gagner is good for 40+ points every year and that he wasn't the ideal "big" center that we want but he's 100x the player that Arcobello is, plus we could have had Purcell for free since he was getting bought out. Mac T made our team worse the night he traded Gagner without a plan to bring in another NHL center.
KeithIsActuallyBad
You thrust your pelvis, huh!
Vets are fine as long as they're good veterans.
I haven't noticed Purcell at all this year.
But hey, trading a center (even a crappy one) and replacing him with a rookie and an AHLer should be a solid plan!
Supermassive
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I know, right? Sell low, grab that buyout candidate, sell some more HOPE!
Hall
Draisaitl
Purcell
Eberle
Close enough! Buy those season tickets! Sell half to your friends and Habs/Leafs fans! We don't care!
The Nuge
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The Nuge
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I've noticed him lots, but it's almost always preceded by "who the **** is that guy floating around not doing anything? Oh wait, it's Purcell."
McShogun99
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Tampa fans warned us about him. At least Penner played with some passion every 5 or so games. Mac T talks about wanting character guys, Gagner had a ton of character. Heck, he was practically our enforcer for most of his time here.
CantHaveTkachev
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I wanted Gagner gone and still do...he'd be brutal on this team, let's not kid ourselves
not replacing Gagner at Center is unforgivable IMO...just poor management
not replacing Gagner at Center is unforgivable IMO...just poor management
TheGuyInTheChair
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Indeed. They figured that an 18/19 year old and Arcobello would be more than fine.
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Wanting Gags gone, and wanting Purcell nowhere near this team aren't mutually exclusive. It was time for Gags to go, but Purcell is worse. I wonder how much MacT actually shopped Gags since Maloney jumped in immediately to try and get him from Tampa, when he heard about the deal
0ilerman
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Gagner, Arco, Draisaitl...it doesnt matter one bit right now. We play in the Pacific, land of Kopitar/Carter, Getzlaf/Kessler, Jumbo/Mini/Couture, and some guy named Henrik, all of whom run our show EVERY time we play them. SJ has a spoil of riches at Centre, dominate regular seasons, and STILL cant make it count in the playoffs. Shows us just how far the oilers really are from success.
The decision to move Gagner without replacing him with a respectable 2nd line centre was the organization giving up on the player. Expecting Leon to fill the role as a 19 year old is asinine. This organization will succeed only when Leon matures in to a solid 2C. Could be next year, could be 5 years from now. Success will not be had in this division without a dominant 1-2 punch down the middle.
The decision to move Gagner without replacing him with a respectable 2nd line centre was the organization giving up on the player. Expecting Leon to fill the role as a 19 year old is asinine. This organization will succeed only when Leon matures in to a solid 2C. Could be next year, could be 5 years from now. Success will not be had in this division without a dominant 1-2 punch down the middle.
I'm sure we could have traded Gagner(salary retained) + Hendricks for a 6th or 7th round pick. Because that's esentially what TB did.
Purcell was a much better option than that, and he has been better this season than Gagner was last season and better than Gagner has been for Arizona this season despite Sammy getting the most sheltered minutes possible.
rboomercat90
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Well we know he didn't shop Smid. Elliot Freidman said all the Gm's he talked to didn't know he was on the market. It was speculated that Mactavish did the deal because he wanted Broissolt. Did it even occur to him he may have been able to get a better deal if he looked around? I suspect that Gagner was dealt to Tampa because Mactavish really wanted Purcell and he had tunnel vision there as well.
Mactavish is starting to look like a guy that gets too focused on one objective and can't see anything else. He doesn't seem to understand that everything is constantly changing around him and because of that always seems to fall further and further behind. I don't think he's much of a big picture guy.
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Also detected is that MacT prefers those that he see's are like himself. A major bias and with him actually stating this in the Eakins hire.
Of course as a coach MacT had also preferred several nondescript players on the basis of them being like himself either on ice or otherwise.
I wonder if he is even aware how much of a polarized opinion this sets himself up for.
Its been an ongoing saga with him. I think we kind of forgot about his overt preferential tendencies due to him not being a coach anymore.
Ummm it was reported for months that Gagner could be or was on the block. Do you and The Nuge not remember all the talk of Gagner to LA that drug on forever and never went through because Lombardi wanted MacT to retain salary.
Supermassive
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The Nuge
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It was also reported that Maloney wanted Gagner, but they couldn't get a deal done. If MacT retained a little salary, I don't see why we couldn't land a useful player like Korpikoski, instead getting a plug, buyout candidate
Maloney gave up a late pick for Gagner (salary retained) and Crombeen.
Gagner had zero value. It's very easy to see that.
KeithIsActuallyBad
You thrust your pelvis, huh!
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