Confirmed with Link: [EDM/ARI] Oilers acquire Troy Stecher and BOS 7th '24 for EDM 4th '27

[MessierII]

Could be a sneaky good pick up. I’d like to see him with nurse and with kulak down the stretch.

Could be a sneaky good pick up. I’d like to see him with nurse and with kulak down the stretch.

 

[K1984]

There's a non-zero chance Stetcher plays regular minutes if they make no other moves

The only thing blocking him out - the politics of scratching Ceci, even for one game.

 

[Magnum23]

Put him in, his mobility, skills and puck-retrieval ability will be night and day compared to Ceci.

Also pretty feisty as well, not afraid to fight above his weight class

 

[tiger_80]

Could be a sneaky good pick up. I’d like to see him with nurse and with kulak down the stretch.

Could be a sneaky good pick up. I’d like to see him with nurse and with kulak down the stretch.

Who does he replace? Desharnais? unlikely given that the latter is key to penalty kill. And Knob does not play 7 d-men usually.

 

[McFlyingV]

Who does he replace? Desharnais? unlikely given that the latter is key to penalty kill. And Knob does not play 7 d-men usually.

Ceci hopefully. Probably requires Ceci getting banged up to get that opportunity though.

 

[Broberg Speed]

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Could be a sneaky good pick up. I’d like to see him with nurse and with kulak down the stretch.

Could be a sneaky good pick up. I’d like to see him with nurse and with kulak down the stretch.

Fearless puck moving game with wheels and experience... you bet.

If the Oilers stop screwing up and start honing the defensive knife we would see Stecher in a equal rotation Ceci and Desharnais for the remainder...

Hopefully Broberg gets a regular season game or two as well. Start putting on a defensive clinic.

 

[MessierII]

Who does he replace? Desharnais? unlikely given that the latter is key to penalty kill. And Knob does not play 7 d-men usually.

I’d experiment with him replacing Ceci.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Could be a sneaky good pick up. I’d like to see him with nurse and with kulak down the stretch.

Could be a sneaky good pick up. I’d like to see him with nurse and with kulak down the stretch.

Same same

 

[Broberg Speed]

Stecher in a equal rotation with Ceci and Desharnais for the remainder of the season. The defenseman who plays mistake free hockey gets bonus games.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Stecher in an equal rotation with Ceci and Desharnais for the remainder of the season. The defenseman who plays mistake free hockey gets bonus games.

Knoblauch straight up said they have no intention of giving him games as they are incredibly happy with the current 6.
So we probably only see Stecher if a guy plays dreadful or injuries.

 

[Soundwave]

Knoblauch straight up said they have no intention of giving him games as they are incredibly happy with the current 6.
So we probably only see Stecher if a guy plays dreadful or injuries.

Easy there Knob, don't go galaxy-braining yourself, see what happened to Woodcroft when he got stubborn (I will go back to Skinner because I already decided he's my guy no matter what even though I've pulled him 4 times!).

Refusing to give Stecher a look because you've convinced yourself Desharnias and Ceci are masters of the universe wouldn't be smart.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Knoblauch straight up said they have no intention of giving him games as they are incredibly happy with the current 6.
So we probably only see Stecher if a guy plays dreadful or injuries.

Except thats not what he said.

He said he wanted him to acclimate and get a practice or two first.

No where in his interview does it say they have no intention of giving him games.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Except thats not what he said.

He said he wanted him to acclimate and get a practice or two first.

No where in his interview does it say they have no intention of giving him games.

Except listen to the question after he said that. He said they might play 11-7 to maybe see what he has but they have no intent to not play their 6. They MIGHT look at it later but they like their 6 guys.

But I guess we will wait and see what they do.

 

[Broberg Speed]

At worst the coach refuses to see what he has but now the team has an extra pairing at their disposal.

If Broberg can play a Stecher level game if needed I don't think anyone would be disappointed.

 

[CycloneSweep]

At worst the coach refuses to see what he has but now the team has an extra pairing at their disposal.

If Broberg can play a Stecher level game if needed I don't think anyone would be disappointed.

That is a massive IF. Stecher is a much better player. At least right now.

 

[Broberg Speed]

That is a massive IF. Stecher is a much better player. At least right now.

mistake free hockey, we have liabilities on every pairing... the chances in the playoffs increase dramatically when players don't cough up the puck... but you carry on with the contempt as it's what you are

 

[CycloneSweep]

mistake free hockey, we have liabilities on every pairing... the chances in the playoffs increase dramatically when players don't cough up the puck... but you carry on with the contempt as it's what you are

Broberg doesn’t play mistake free hockey though? So I don’t get your point

 

[Sheikyerbouti]

Broberg doesn’t play mistake free hockey though? So I don’t get your point

He plays close to mistake free hockey at the AHL level, and he is better than half our dmen at moving the puck already imo, he just hasn't done it at the pro level. Maybe he never gets there, but he also could be one of the best four dmen already.

Bouchard was awful right up until he wasn't.

 

[MessierII]

Knoblauch straight up said they have no intention of giving him games as they are incredibly happy with the current 6.

No he didn’t lol. Why do you keep repeating this?

 

[Dazed and Confused]

@Dazed and Confused

Just looking at some of Ceci's and Stecher's numbers this season.
Its an interesting comparison....

Ceci
GP 60 G 2 A 16 TOI 20:10 CF% 50.8 oZS% 48.3

Cody Ceci Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Salary, Title | Hockey-Reference.com

Stecher
GP 47 G 1 A 4 TOI 18:26 CF% 49.1 oZS% 43.5

Troy Stecher Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Salary, Title | Hockey-Reference.com

So even though Ceci quite often plays with Edmontons best players (which likely explains his larger point totals) his Corsi is less than 1 percentage point better than Stechers and Stecher gets more defensive zone starts than Ceci.
So the quality of linemates in massively in favor of Ceci and yet Stecher does quite well.
There isnt even a big gap in terms of the TOI.
The reports I am hearing as well suggest that Stechers strength is his skating and puck moving. Something that isnt a strength for Ceci.

This discussion has opened my eyes a little. Very curious to see how Stecher does moving forward.

I think an even better comparison is where Ceci and Kulak were at right before they got to Edmonton.

Stecher (just copied from your post)
GP 47 G 1 A 4 TOI 18:26 CF% 49.1 oZS% 43.5

Kulak with Montreal in 21-22
GP 56 G 3 A 10 TOI 17:58 CF% 49.3 oZS% 46.7

Ceci with Pittsburgh in 2021
GP 53 G 4 A 13 TOI 18:31 CF% 49.5 oZS% 50.0

None of the 3 played significant (i.e top 4) minutes against elites per PuckIQ. But that's a problem Darnell Nurse is so use to covering for with his partners, that he just thinks it's the norm.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

The only thing blocking him out - the politics of scratching Ceci, even for one game.

He's coming off b2b minus games with his lowest ice times of the season after being moved off the Nurse pairing.

I don't think the team politics are working in Ceci's favour at the moment.

 

[Sra1974]

He's coming off b2b minus games with his lowest ice times of the season after being moved off the Nurse pairing.

I don't think the team politics are working in Ceci's favour at the moment.

I also think with all the games coming up in close succession it’s an easy call to insert Stetcher to give guys a rest

 

[Mr Positive]

I wonder if we could rest a couple guys and build up cap space to eat up the overage on Brown. Don't we have a bit of a rough schedule? We could play Stecher. Is Ceci getting claimed if he's waived? Kane? At the very least, Ryan or Janmark

All these guys could come back for playoffs. We are talking about 19 games left if we do this after Sunday. There is one month left. This could actually help the team's playoffs by giving older guys a chance to rest and train

 

[CupofOil]

Lol, they aren't scratching Ceci and Desharnais, the Oilers brass loves those guys. Stecher is injury insurance, nothing more.

The smart move would be to try Stecher on the Nurse pairing just to see if they have something there because the others clearly haven't worked so....why not? But that's not happening.
I've always been interested to see how Nurse works with a puckmover. His best moments have been with Bear and Barrie tbh.

 

[guymez]

I think an even better comparison is where Ceci and Kulak were at right before they got to Edmonton.

Stecher (just copied from your post)
GP 47 G 1 A 4 TOI 18:26 CF% 49.1 oZS% 43.5

Kulak with Montreal in 21-22
GP 56 G 3 A 10 TOI 17:58 CF% 49.3 oZS% 46.7

Ceci with Pittsburgh in 2021
GP 53 G 4 A 13 TOI 18:31 CF% 49.5 oZS% 50.0

None of the 3 played significant (i.e top 4) minutes against elites per PuckIQ. But that's a problem Darnell Nurse is so use to covering for with his partners, that he just thinks it's the norm.

Interesting.
By all reports Ceci had a really good year in Pittsburg before coming here and these numbers seem to bear that out.
I might add though that Nurse may be used to covering for a partner but all too oftent he is part of the problem in terms of his coverage.